LOL WUTLeftists cope; They’re claiming Velma sucks because Mindy Kaling is “right-wing”

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[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What happened to that animated transman show that looked like Steven Universe?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think that one was called "paranormal park" or something like that. And I believe it got cancelled. There was some huge purge of animated shoes when the Warner Bros president changed I think it was? Disney as well. Lots of these are getting the axe.

I've seen all of five seconds of it but it was the trans-man character in question trying to emotionally blackmail his parents into cutting ties with his grandmother because she still calls "him" by the wrong pronouns or something and because of that if you don't cut off grandma also it means you don't really love me blah blah.

Like this is what you want from a children's show? Oh wait forgive me the target audience isn't children but immature adults, written by other immature adults so they can project their own family drama.

It's funny because IRL, anytime I've ever encountered one of those types of people who are trying to police my relationships with others, basically trying to drag me into their own interpersonal drama, it never works out in their favor, cause you know "I'll stop being your friend unless you quit being friends with another person."

Usually ends with.

"I'm sorry you feel that way. Goodbye.".

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"CalArts/beanmouth" is so much more than a jab at identical style/posing, it's a whole worldview--everyone goes to the same college, the same rotation of jobs in Burbank-Glendale, the same soft-left politics, the same needs they're expressing when they make animation ("representation," "comfort watching"); that means the same weird way that they go about insisting that an 11yo can awaken to being "aroace" and "hemidemigenderfluid" ("that was how it was to me! I didn't like wearing pants in 4th grade!")

there's no Southern Gothic gay, no Larry David-type warped-Jewish-humor gay, no gay supervillains; even Invincible has a more complicated gay character than the stereotype (the now-cancelled shows themselves might've gone past the stereotypes, but there's no stereotype about Invincible)

it's like how people mock "capeshit" for insisting that the apex of the art is superbeings having flashy yet bloodless CGI fights, ending with the protags staring into the sunset portentiously uttering "somehow, Palpatine returned" (not saying that's true for the MCU, but that that's the stereotype: I can enjoy a Big Explosions movie, but they're remote from irl experience and have a place)

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Problem with cape shit was super heroes were fun until they weren't, not only overdone to death but done so with so much seriousness and gravitas about a dumb simple concept where you get some guy dressed in spandex fighting some other guy dressed in spandex to save the world.

60's batman? Brilliant fun. Campy as shit love it.

90's cartoon Batman. Surprisingly good. Keeps a noir style without making it inappropriate for kids. Excellent.

Recent movie Batman, dark brooding serious crime drama shit, about a man who dresses like a bat.

Like the whole problem is the same problem with Marvel. Super hero movies are supposed to be escapism and silly. They're fun when they are. But when we get film after film of just extremely trite overdone violence that is trying to take itself way to seriously it's just like, at this point why bother with the superheroes at all? Just make a spy thriller or something else. Super Hero movies just basically have morphed into this massive thing where they eat up the market. They're the opposite of art. Sterile and corporate vehicles designed for maximum profitability. Some of them are certainly enjoyable to watch though it's more like a Disneyland ride than a movie. Fun and flashy but if you do it more than once it starts to get old fast.

Shit like Invincible was fun because it kind of subverts the whole typical superhero idea while actually not subverting it all that much. Very refreshing after all that Marvel shit. Here you've got a show that knows the super hero concept is rediculous, and it embraces the silliness of it. It doesn't even try to be realistic, doesn't even bother to play that game where it's wink wink at the audience see we're more mature than the stereotype.

And it's fun. It plays into all the Saturday morning cartoon shit that is dumb, embraces it, and manages to have a quite engaging plot because of it. It's not trite and predictable yet it's subverts the stereotypes by not subverting the stereotypes. The whole plot twist is played at the end of episode one. It's brilliant. It goes from just another Saturday morning cartoon rip off to something far worse. You know what shit is going to happen. And like a train wreck about to happen you just can't help but watch. And eventually that train hits and it manages to not disappoint.

But for every Invincible there's like, 5 crap family guy rip off shows, like that stupid basketball comedy on Netflix or their Police drama one. Say what you will about McFarlane, he actually has talent whether or not you think he's funny. These Netflix shows make juvenile fartjokes from old Nickelodeon cartoons seem like Shakespearean soliloquies in comparison.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWcmwlpjQo this scene's all punching and talking, but you have a REAL contrast between a supe grappling with the unachievable ideals of an open society that doesn't live up to them, vs. a supe purely about rule with a fist so tight his victims feel grateful for it; there's something that stays behind for the 99.99999% of us who aren't earthshattering superspuds or peasants on a volcano planet 1,000 light-years away

it's why the Sith were so interesting even in the prequels because they were so bent on self-seeking they crawled their way to the throne, while in the sequels they just have big ships, blow up a village so they can find thousands of more ships, and yell Britishly; then every planet somehow overthrows them at once

that's what made WandaVision different from half the MCU, it wasn't just "okay, we filled our quota for quips": it's not "Captain Wasserface knocks Particle Man with a blast of water, then Captain I-Beam hits him so hard the ground cracks magma, and she makes a smart-aleck comment about men fighting over her" (felt dirty typing that)

I see these failures as basically FAILURES to use animation (or CGI for the MCU/Star Wars): each way of showing something to an audience (opera, splatter painting, Soviet Girl Meets Tractor painting, concrete poem) has its own rules and "grammar" determined by the substance itself: that's why you don't waste a comic strip or cartoon on having the characters just yipyap at each other (it's even called "illustrated radio"); if you have an Important Message for readers, don't make it 50 pages long, otherwise the only devotees will be weird sex-culty types enveloped by the other 1,150 pages (lookin' at you, Ayn Rand); Dr. Who was a cavalcade of terrific female characters, then they decided to "stick it to the chuds" with Thirteen and made her a giggling airhead for half a season until they went back to the cavalcade of weird shit

so bringing it back to the 2022-3 purge, even if the shows aren't actually that similar there's a sense that they were drawn the same, run by the same people or sort of people (these creators are queer 20-35yos, not a 55yo experienced in some international gay underground animation scene), same beats and poses and pacing (since it's the same boarders), same Joe Rogan jokes (those definitely won't age badly by like 2023), same Anglo-American social categories (there's no Latin travestis, nothing besides shallow undergrad politics, little European animation influence): so no matter the differences, it still feels that a lot of different versions of the same show are getting axed (only Kid Cosmic and Infinity Train looked like they didn't come from the same studio)--my reaction's more "oh, that one ... too?"