Most Americans support outlawing transgender surgeries, drugs for minors, poll finds

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The latest NHS guidance is very sane, and back to what things were in the early 2000s.

I think what happened was basically what /r/Tumblrinaction started with. Bunch of stupid kids grew up with the internet and it warped their sense of reality "boomers" didn't see what was happening. Perpetual teenager mentality tumblrinas grew up and got positions of authority with emotional terrorism and internet burn style of debate, "boomers" didn't know how to handle it and didn't want to risk retirement, they enjoyed success for a time as the "boomers" continued to play by the old rules of not inciting "flame wars" aka acting civil (good idea but utterly useless against people who refuse to act civil) and it's only recently that enough people have wised up to it to quote the parlance "call them out on their shit".

I'll go with what I've always said, people have the right to self identify however they want, but I don't have the obligation to support or agree with them. I've got empathy with trans people and can understand the underlying psychological causes, but it's much like alcoholism, you aren't supposed to embrace and encourage it, will lead to a dark end and your own control over the situation is, limited, at best. Said as a fully aware hypocritical alcoholic. Cheers. Fuck you Brits for inventing the pub, also god bless you Brits for inventing the pub. To alcohol the cause and solution of all of life's problems.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think another factor is the Millennials aging out (everyone's 30-40 now) and more able to look back on their youth, while Z/Alpha is still in the 17-22-yo wave--and the next generations aren't gonna stop, the HR and IT departments will make sure of that

but what was different was that being accused of "doing an -ism" was entirely new 2012-14, back even before the radfems lost their top position when they touched the transwoman third rail (unflamboyant gay men are still in exile when the radfems called them "doubly patriarchal" lol)

so now there's a cohort that went through all that undergrad drama and even holds similar positions, but is able to say "yeah I remember doing the same, but it was counterproductive to the cause": so Alphas will scream at the "obsolete" generation but secretly know deep down that it'll happen to them to, that they're going to become dentists

the Water Buffalo Incident's from 1993, but it didn't turn into a cycle of "yeah, but you're a Black MAN" becoming "yeah, but you're a Black CIS woman" becoming "yeah, but you're a Black trans woman attracted to MEN," etc.--not until Tumblr

it's moved on to TikTok now, but that's got such an unwieldy interface: Tumblr was such a delight by comparison, you could search pages and pages of fanart and it'd helpfully provide all their longwinded rants right next to them; TT's not as good at really conveying political messages as Tumblr even if the Race/Gender 101 and Oppression Olympics factors are the exact same, it's all on a scroll