Implying the “trans” people who even use their reproductive organs and engage in heterosexual intercourse are real trans people to begin with.

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Gender disphoria is real. Beyond that?

It's fairly obvious to anyone who wants to start critically examining what people say that it's all a mental health issue.

[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gender disphoria isn't real either, it's just body dysmorphia and self-loathing.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Body dismorphia is clearly a related issue. The self loathing is likely caused by that.

Naturally the problem comes down to if you don't feel "at home" in your own body, that's not going to change if you alter your body. You'll still not feel comfortable with yourself. Your body has changed but it's still yours. You're just as likely to continue to suffer from disphoria with your new body. You've not dealt with the underlying cause which isn't physical.

I have at the very least some sympathy towards people that understand that and just want to dress weird or whatever. I don't understand the reasoning why but at the very least "acting like a woman" for whatever the fuck that means doesn't have permanent effects on your body like surgery does.

[–]jacques1102 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly,i don't see how it has gone beyond it being a dysphoria.No matter how hard people try,there's no way someone can be born into the wrong body.I still hold that in order for that premise to work,you'd have to believe in a soul and that soul got mismatched into the wrong sex's body.Even if you believe that the main cause for the dysphoria is their brains producing a certain chemical that made them believe it,it wouldn't be proof that they're truly opposite sex.

[–]r2d2_21 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you'd have to believe in a soul and that soul got mismatched into the wrong sex's body

Why would souls be gendered to begin with? When the whole point of sex is reproduction which happens in the physical world, why would a soul have any information regarding how it happens?

[–]jacques1102 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly i don't know.All i know is that for the concept of being trapped in the wrong body that it would have to be true.Either trans people are who they say they are,or it's an hallucination caused by their brains producing the wrong chemicals that making them believe it.

[–]bopomofodojo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, it's real. So is Anorexia. The treatment for Anorexia isn't lipo and nutrient pills; it's therapy to get you to realize that your cognition is fucked up and needs to be fixed.

But somehow trans is different: the body must adapt to the mind, not the other way around. To believe this is true, requires believing in an immutable, gendered "spirit" that is somehow at odds with the physical body. Which is purely religious thinking.