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[–]clownworlddropout 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

What a loser, my god. That poor woman.

[–]Haylstorm 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Should've bailed after the first few years of no job. That's a neckbeard sign if i've ever seen one. You're never going to have a partner in that case.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I agree. I know this is controversial to bring up, but are there women out there who genuinely want a house husband? Sure, there are couples who make it work, but usually this happened by accident. Husband is a veteran or a retired cop/firefighter, or was let go from his job and unable to find employment.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Being a stay at home parent is a luxury these days, and this has been the case for a while now.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Which is a shame. People used to earn enough money to support a family. Back when immigration was at sustainable levels and manufacturing jobs weren't being shipped overseas.

My advice to young couples is to make arrangements where the grandparents look after the children while Dad and Mam go to work.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Back when immigration was at sustainable levels

More than that, when immigrants were White.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When immigrants had potential to learn English and the capacity to thrive in American culture, which was of European origin.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's always a shock to view some pop culture from the 60s and see that they were making fun of people from Poland, or Italy, or Ireland or something. Like...wow. Because that's what "immigrants" used to be.

The movie "The Deer Hunter" is a good example.

[–]FourteenDigitz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alright how about we draw the line at white supremacy, yeah?

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Like I'll admit I wouldn't mind it if it's a childcare thing? You pick who has the better career ladder/moneymaking and they work. Childcare can be more than income at times if it's part time work for example. Even then though now it's more like both people working and childcare options are parents or something.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can understand being a stay-at-home dad just because the wife earns more money or her job provides more benefits-in-kind. But a lot of women do not want to marry SAH dads, so it wouldn’t surprise me if this particular arrangement remains rare.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean it's just more efficient from a biological standpoint for the woman to leave employment to raise kids vs the man. Obviously the modern world is complicated and there will be exceptions, and there's certainly no reason why a father can't stay at home and raise the kids, but talking specifically about pregnancy, giving birth, nursing, these are things that only the woman can do and they will make it harder for her to keep working during it. The man doesn't have the same concerns.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with this. A woman has to recover after giving birth to a baby. On top of that, she can breastfeed her child while a man cannot do that. Sure, a mother can put some of her breastmilk in a bottle and the father can feed her milk to the baby, but the most natural and simplest thing is for the mother to feed the baby directly.

On top of all that, the baby was inside the mother for 9 months. He's still going to need her for the first few months of his life so he can re-adjust to life outside the womb. It's important that the father begins holding the child and bonding with him, but the baby was never inside of his father, just half of him was, so the baby is simply not as familiar with his dad as he is with his mam.

Dad staying at home with the kids is still a valid option. But it should be a backup plan rather than the first plan.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It only makes sense to me if there are kids (or other dependents) in the picture. I'm not sexist about this, I had a childless female friend who sat on her ass (or partied) while her husband worked, and I didn't respect her for it. Doesn't bode well for when they have to take on actual responsibility in their lives.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. Staying at home, regardless of your sex, to look after dependents is valid. Staying at home just to relax or party all the time, and mooch off of your partner, is wrong and selfish. I know some women who don’t have children and don’t have jobs, but they help their husbands with their careers and organise events for families and local community. These women contribute to their families and to society in a way.