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[–]Datachost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Right, it's not so much conservative men as men who have a view of women as inferior and if the last couple of years have taught us anything it's that there's plenty of those men on the left too, they're just a bit better at hiding it. And that's where the fetish comes from ultimately, the thought of losing control, becoming inferior, whilst still actually being completely in control. Autogynephilia is where masochism meets misogyny. To go back to Shapiro's meeting with Tur, Tur gets to throw around his (literal and social) weight and use that as intimidation whilst still getting to pretend like he's a wallflower who couldn't handle the slightest criticism. The male power still remains post transition. Transwomen make headlines for being admirals, athletes, CEOs. Transmen get in the news for getting pregnant.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that Tur character is positively terrifying. He just oozes this weird authoritarianism, like he's got you cornered and he's going to do whatever he wants with you now.