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[–]Curus-Bachleda 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

In my view, involuntary celibate men do exist, but only in specific cases. I can see a physically or mentally disabled guy struggling to get women's attention. Nonwhite men living in a white country can face dating woes, but most of them are just white worshippers.

The majority of the guys who claim to be incel are just volcels. It's not that all women reject them, just the ones they are attracted to (read: pretty girls). Every time they say "I have no standards" or " I would date any girl as long as she loves me", I burst out laughing.

Weeks ago, I scrolled through their main subreddit. A guy was complaining about being rejected by the women he approached. Nearly all of the girls were gorgeous. The ordinary looking girl was not only described briefly but also criticized.

Another one said he could date a "1/10" (I loathe these terms!), but he wasn't interested in them because they aren't his type. Not to mention guys complaining about only getting matches with black women. It sums up their mindset.