Sweet young woman who tried to reason w trans activists can't figure out why they're still mean to her: "Trans activists are telling me to eat glass and saying they hope I get raped and murdered. I am not even transphobic. My crime is only calling vulvas “female genital anatomy.”

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[–]IridescentAnaconda 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Indeed, on the cake thing, I was supportive of the baker. He doesn't want to bake your cake: so what, go to another baker. And, honestly, I'd rather my gay wedding cake be baked by somebody who's supportive of my marriage, not somebody who's doing it because they're being forced.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I felt the same. Like i'd rather give my money to someone who is happy to make my cake.

Also if someone feels uncomfortable who am i to force them not be able to have boundaries. I wouldn't want someone thinking they were going to eternal damnation in hell because they were forced to bake my cake. It's mental but they believe it and i'm sure that is scary and stressful.

[–]WildApples 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is such a wonderfully compassionate take. I never thought about it like that.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm of the opinion they can refuse to bake me a cake for .. any .. reason .. at .. all (eternal damnation or not). Who the fuck am I to tell them what to do?

[–]ImSuperCerial 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Plus this is what it looked like at Masterpiece Cakeshop preparing said cake.

[–]BEB[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Me too! He could spit in it or worse. Get the caterer or a friend to bake it. I actually think the cake affair set gay acceptance back.

[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I actually think the cake affair set gay acceptance back.

Just from a public relations point of view, it was a stupid move. If anti-discrimination laws were going to be tested, it should have been on something like someone being denied medical care, something serious. Not a cake for fuck's sake.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Or being denied access to a dying life partner.

I think that if the US Equality Act passes, it's going to set gay acceptance back a lot. You're probably old enough to remember the "Slippery Slope" argument about gay rights. Well, once little Madysyn is battered on the soccer field by a 6'2" bruiser who calls himself Chloe, who then goes on to flash his erect dick in Madysyn's locker room, there's going to be hell to pay. I don't know why more gays and lesbians are so blind to the damage the TQ + are doing to their own movement.

[–]JulienMayfair 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A lot of the LGB, especially the younger ones, are totally indoctrinated with the "Trans women of color threw the first brick at Stonewall" and other such ideas and genuinely think that trans people have always been at the core of LGB activism. Hell, lots of women are out championing undermining women's sex-based rights. And many women and LGB who are not indoctrinated are too scared to speak out.

Radical feminists were some of the first to sound the alarm on this, but I think they may have made one strategic error. They didn't realize that straight non-trans men would be their natural allies, more so than liberal feminists. I think with the Superstraight trend, we see that a lot of thoroughly decent non-trans men who didn't realize what was going on are ready to come to the rescue.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with all your comments.

I'm one of the older, 2nd Wave feminists who was cruising along, living life, thinking that at least some of the major battles to let women lead free lives had been won, when a few things happened: a young lesbian I am very close to "came out" with a bunch of her private school friends as "gender fluid/transgender" and Bruce Jenner was named a WOMAN of the Year. I'm still chortling over the latter.

Then pink hats being banned from some Women's Marches because they were "transphobic." Then California allowing men to self-identity into women's nursing home and longterm care facilities and also criminalizing "misgendering."

The hits kept coming.

I was even more shocked to learn that there was such a thing as "lib fems," who seemed to be adherents of a men's rights movement that they called 3rd Wave feminism, or something.

When I figured out what lib fems "stood" for, I figured these women would be no use in fighting gender ideology, but instead men would. Normal, Joe Six-Pack heterosexual men. And I (and you) were right.

And, as you say, the younger LGB are useless because they have been so effectively indoctrinated by Big Gender into an alternate, and completely incorrect, homosexual history, where trans are the heroes and gays did?

I never thought I would be thanking whatever powers there be for the Republicans, but today, during the Equality Act Senate Judiciary Committee hearings, I was cheering them on.

[–]Comatoast 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not only that, but with wedding cakes they have a touch of symbolism there. If you know the baker at a small business, it's nice to not only support their business, but there's also a feeling that they might have taken extra care. Makes things taste better when you don't taste defeat in their cooking.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'd rather my gay wedding cake be baked by somebody who's supportive of my marriage, not somebody who's doing it because they're being forced.

yeah, they might infect it with heterolurgies