Allowable "Pride"

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[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Do you not remember that woman auctioned off as a bride in exchange for cattle, and other goods? It was held on facebook, don't remember?

And what of anything else I mentioned?

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I would also like to add, that I reread your post, and mine, if you construed from what I wrote that all of Africa promotes slavery, I never said this. I sited a single example of a woman posted to facebook in what I read, auctioned off, to the highest bidder; which did boast some impressive number of animals for the sale. I don't think it's cute, funny, or kind to auction anyone off.

Aside from that, yes, through the years, I've read that global modern slavery is through the roof by way of numbers. I've heard that many folks are used as slave labor on fishing boats, and other 'bfe' sorts of places where they cannot easily find help, or rescue.

There's also the modern organ trade that's very popular, and those are stolen; same thing to me.

Let me ask you a pointed question, and if so, then please provide a very easily comprehended reason why.... Are you white, and why do you personally believe that you are dangerous for having pride?

I personally believe that to tackle true racism, is at the personal level across the board. I also believe that to truly hate, is ignorance at it's finest.

This thread isn't click bait, and it's not trolling, I'm looking for clarity. It would seem to me, if we have to disable any group, to make other groups feel 'accepted', then the entirety of said group, must be dangerous at a personal level; each, and everyone.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Are you white

people assume so

why do you personally believe that you are dangerous for having pride?

not

This thread isn't click bait, and it's not trolling,

everything on social media is. the picture is supposed to be funny, but racial conflict is very unfunny.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Oh boy, you maybe white, and you've got a 'not' for the response for yourself; I assume you see yourself as not dangerous?

To address the last, you write, "everything on social media is. the picture is supposed to be funny, but racial conflict is very unfunny."

If you think this is click bait, then adios, the picture was never funny to me, and racial conflict is an awesome tool used by the cabal; twist it, turn it, shape it, and a little while later, they've got chaos, we've got shit, and well, in the end, their children win; last I checked, you, and I, and all other colors mixed with all the white pleebs matter a whole ton of nada; we get stuck with chaos.

I know where you're coming from, a white knight always ready lay down on your sword for others, but why, and at what cost? You've read Sweden is leaning towards banning Viking Runes, and more because history is bad, right?

When does it stop? When does anyone engage to say, enough is enough? You can play 20th, and 21st century rainbow shit, but as long as we force groups to subjugate, then it'll turn into a '1984' continual warfare shit fest.

If you really stop to think about what Orwell wrote, or other simiilar authors who may of been a little in the know, the main point to keep control of society was to have perpetual wars, but any sort of conflict will work in kind.

Thanks for participating.

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

I know where you're coming from, a white knight always ready lay down on your sword for others, but why, and at what cost? You've read Sweden is leaning towards banning Viking Runes, and more because history is bad, right?

stfu retard

[–]Entropick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You, sir, have fully convinced me you are an idiot.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

stfu retard

Is that the level of your intelligence? A forum is a place to discuss, learn, share, and grow, and you've got one sentence(if lucky) ignorant responses followed up with stfu retard. We can only discuss the approved mainstream non hate(their label) filled narratives, as those are 'safe discussions'?

Again, when does it end? Haven't you noticed, on a daily basis, there is less, and less we are 'allowed' to talk about because it 'offends' someone. I'm watching youtubes now, people are using descriptive phrases in place of 'buzz words', as they feel to say xyz word in the manner they're discussing it, that they're video will be erased, or worse their hard work, and channel removed, for saying whatever it is.

Think about that for a moment, private people, that live on this Earth like we do, and are brave enough to talk about tough topics on air, yet they're forced to behave like children because there's literally a 'Deep Nanny State'. How Twilight Zone!

Let's discuss you're motivations, and participation in this thread. I assume you're only point in this thread was to disrupt, and I would further take that thought, that your idea in disruption was a means to 'muddy up the waters', on what you're preprogrammed to think must be bad hate topic. Yet, when I'm trying to show you that's not my intention, I get, 'stfu retard'.

Is retard kind, or politically correct? In my case, I've been called that for how I walk, how I move, and in my brother's case, well he's a straight up retarded, but we don't call him that, as even though numerous people have, he kinda realizes, so I just call him by his name, but others refer to him as 'special needs'..

I think you're lacking a little in logical debate sawboss. And on that note, I appreciate your opinion, or that of anyone. I really think only those that can face their biggest fears, angers, hates, and cross other crucibles can truly know themselves well enough to have independent thought.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Is that the level of your intelligence?

Probably. What's it to you, retard? After all, you're the one who threw the first insult. Take it like a man.

A forum is a place to discuss, learn, share, and grow,

In your dreams maybe. Forums are used to accumulate social power, coordinate social engineering actions, or distribute porn. We aren't supposed to share porn here, so what's left? Oh yeah, there's a karma system.

youtubes

I'm aware of the censorship there. They've almost got free speech locked out. If someone says a "naughty word" in a livestream they get shutdown within seconds. I've seen it happen live on several occations.

I assume you're only point in this thread was to disrupt, and I would further take that thought, that your idea in disruption was a means to 'muddy up the waters', on what you're preprogrammed to think must be bad hate topic.

That's actually fucking stupid. There is a need for deeper examination of assertions or allegations offered without supporting evidence. I requested such, and you took that as an opportunity to start shit with me. Fuck you.

Is retard kind, or politically correct?

Do you care? No? STFU.

I think you're lacking a little in logical debate sawboss.

No shit? Wow.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

That's actually fucking stupid. There is a need for deeper examination of assertions or allegations offered without supporting evidence. I requested such, and you took that as an opportunity to start shit with me. Fuck you.

Sawboss, you've actually been very informative in this thread, literally by way of not being able to communicate effectively beyond insults.

The OP, listed several points. Yet, you take a single point out of several; which had continued exact context to what I was speaking of, yet act as though the rest wasn't there in (parenthesis), and misconstrue for what net gain? From there, at any point trying to engage you, to find out where you're coming from, and why, all you do is either insult, or fail to communicate effectively with everyone; it's very telling of what I would think a subconscious trigger on certain subjects, as learned by social indoctrination.

I mean you're 'argument', is 'shut up', 'retard', 'assholes', or straight up, lying; as what you tried to pass off as my words, was just your own creation as it lacked full context; how strange, yet telling of one's lack of ability to engage in any meaningful synthesis.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From there, I get it, everyone, and everything must be suspect, it's a very very common cabal tactic that they've forced down everyone's throat. So by default, we shun away from the very topics they use to divide us, and keep us biting at each others necks. I think it's related to 'if you see something, say something'.

If we continue to decide by topic, rather than narrative that things cannot be discussed, then how can we as a people ever reach any sort of meaningful, and 100% inclusive solutions moving forward?

Without discussion, then it's like the proverbial dam that never get's fixed, and we keep placing bandaids over leaks; yet the whole damn dam will at some point fail.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

You've attacked my political motives, intellect, moral character, and probably some other things. I gave one insult in self defense and you won't shut up about it. That's fucking retarded.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You Say:

That's actually fucking stupid. There is a need for deeper examination of assertions or allegations offered without supporting evidence. I requested such, and you took that as an opportunity to start shit with me. Fuck you.

When I checked on my thread that day, you left a one liner question, which was taken out of context. I wouldn't have assumed that, but your very next post to someone who tried answering your question was:

Literally fuck Gulag, and literally fuck your search results. This will not suffice as supporting evidence.

So, you ask a question out of direct context, then when someone else answers your pointed question, you answer with the above. I actually went to the link trying to get a mutual comprehension for what you wrote. Unless I missed something, it's just a wiki link going over slavery in varying parts of Africa. Yet, you responded with what would appear to be a Nazi reference(I assume to further demonize as you've been socially trained to do?), as well as another 'fuck you'. I mean seriously?

How is anyone to think you're anything other than a troll??? You totally lashed out, before I could respond, then when I try to engage, just more rage. Finally, now you try to pander for sympathy due to your foot in mouth trolling style?

Am I wrong with your intent in this thread? You started the fuck you's, and the out of context shit.

I've noted many on this forum like the one liner, 'this thread is shit' void of any real reason why, then move on as though they're invincible, and void of further scrutiny of their shit posts; if you want to do that with me, then bare the brunt.

I would like to add at this point, you did help this thread with your knee jerk reactions of what you thought, or misconceived. I only seek answers, and I think through synthesis of ideas, even conflicting ideas, working solutions for issues is possible.

To ignore the uncomfortable, well it just turns into dis-ease.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

not facebook

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

not facebook

You realize that this is a forum for discussion, or debate, or just shooting the shit, right? The link below, via google, to CNN about FACEBOOK.

Facebook under fire for posts on auction of child bride https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/africa/south-sudan-child-bride-facebook-auction-intl/index.html

QUOTE: "An auction was discussed on the social media platform for a girl aged 16 or 17 in South Sudan that sought payment for her hand in marriage. Facebook said the post was taken down as soon as the company learned of it, but that wasn't until after the girl involved was married. According to children's rights organization Plan International, the girl was bid on by five men, some of whom were reportedly high-ranking South Sudanese government officials."

EDITED TO ADD THIS PORTION: "Activists are concerned that this auction -- for which the father reportedly received 500 cows, three cars and $10,000 in exchange for his daughter -- could inspire other families to use *social media sites to receive larger payments."*

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride? I would like to add here, that like whites, not all blacks are the same; there are differences in culture, and I guess more, not sure. I do know that the black folk I grew up around, had their I believe it was 'clicks'

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride?

"Black" has significant cultural and historical meaning.
I don't think that Africans consider themselves "black" in the way you're staying it in relation to their skin tone.
"Black pride" is an African American term.
I don't think that Africans who move to the US are considered African Americans.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Take a moment to look at the tongue, and brain twisting circle jerk we're forced to maintain today. An African that moved from Africa to the United States, could be described as 'African-American'; see how it can get ridiculously confusing?

This isn't by mistake, at least by way of some of the 'founders' of the USA. I believe Patrick Henry, and others made mention of the word games. I know I've got 2 Black's Law Dictionaries; one is modern, and one is older, a lot of the definitions are the same, but some that I think count, have seriously been changed.

Imagine applying modern defined terms to the documents still in force that were created with a different meaning... Shift this over to modern politically correct speech, and well, there you go... A simple example is rap music's use of Latin word for black. When young black people use the word no problem, when a young different color person, white, or other, it's offensive. That's actually fine, but I note that it's usually people that truly embrace black culture, as in they identify with it, that bear the brunt of their own interests, or identity.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You realize that this is a forum for discussion, or debate, or just shooting the shit, right?

It isn't used that way.

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride?

Ideally I should not have to care. If they ask my permission I'd tell them no.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's pretty clear that the Sudanese who auctioned his daughter off to the highest bidder benefited greatly from the facebook media attention. While the actual auction didn't happen on facebook, the site aided in driving the price for a living human being up so high, that the fear was that all Sudanese, or others would be using it as a promotion tool.....

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Or it was a PsyOp to manipulate public perception.

That would be my guess.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The auction wasn't real? Modern slavery is a real thing, or do you also say psyop to that?

PsyOps don't leave links, but then again, most people think there's an approved link somewhere all the time.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't need to be real or fake to be a PsyOp.

It just needs to be viral so that is noticed.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It isn't used that way.

Oh shit, we've got someone who doesn't know they're participating in a thread in a forum.....

I've read countless posts on this site, people all stating they want to make a 'difference', that they want to perhaps steer public debate with I would presume ideas discussed.

I actually appreciate the negativity, and lack of any meaningful commitment on your part for this. It's given me an idea, on furthering an idea, that will probably go nowhere, BUT, it's a positive idea at a means to realize equality, void of any subjugation of any group, which by way of common sense, isn't real equality.