Shocking moment conservative activist is punched in the face on UC-Berkeley campus over sign reading 'hate crime hoaxes hurt real victims'

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[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In regards to any religion, they bread zealots; I'm more into spirituality myself... I think all anyone needs is already within them; they just need to tune out the 'outside whispers', and get to know themselves. It's harder than you'd think, and I'm no enlightened master, so I try to constantly ask myself why I do what I do, and/or is it from external media influences; there's a lot of directed 'pograms' out there.

Yet the bible passage you refer to is one of my favorites; to myself, it applies on an individual to individual; not so much to an oligarchy group push narrative.

In regards to the the article from 'everdayfeminism.com', I found it interesting. I'm male, and the article discussed man on man rape in parts. Let me comment, I've not been raped, but I'd hope that whoever was would report it so that it doesn't happen to the next guy, or gal.
In reading the narrative of the article, I must comment that police, and prosecutors, are making money for the system; it's not just rape, but a myriad of crimes they won't do much about; it's about money, and people need to comprehend that. It'll never be fair to many victims of numerous violent crimes.
Is it fair? Hell no. Does it necessitate change? I think so, but in what way?
I don't see more government control making much of an impact, but I do see self preparedness, self awareness, and knowing this world is about a fight, and if you're gonna live in this world, you'd better be ready to fight.
The world we live in is alive, and wild; comfort is in your den like any animal, outside of that, is survival.
Yes, being awake, and aware can ruin some parties, but at the same time, you'll go home more likely in one piece, and 'spiritually whole', if that makes sense.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I must comment that police, and prosecutors, are making money for the system;

Not everyone lives in America. Some people have uncorrupt police – or at the very least less corrupt police.

What you're saying is pretty deep, and I'm going to need some time to process it. But it's a tangent nonetheless.

I don't want to invoke the No True Scotsman fallacy, so I'll just pop this here and see if you concur.

Do you concur?

This is tricky, and something to which I have no answer. But you should discuss this issue when there aren't high-profile cases around to avoid perverting the course of justice.

Do you agree? Why, or why not?

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Corruption doesn't have much to do with it. Police go off of what they hear, and are told; most cannot clearly Annunciate, or convey what happened to them, why, and what they want done; mix that in with average police IQ, and presto; recipe for disaster even without corruption mixed in.

In regards to No True Scotsman(I like that, not too familiar with it, but cool), I wasn't familiar with the term, but the concept I'm very familiar with. For myself, I want to be fully informed, aware, and have an internal knowing, a 'standing'.
To further a lie, out of convenience, or to further a larger narrative, because you think it's the 'best', is nothing more than lying to yourself, and basically amounting to 'kicking your own feet out from under you'.

As to the last point, and discussing serious topics while they're ongoing.... The very most important thing I've learned in my life is that it's impossible to stop people; especially in mass from doing what they'll do.

In water, and in electrical circuitry, there are 'eddie currents'. These always go against the flow, they're ever present, and in some way shape, or regard will be there. We have these same sorts of things occur in society. Why?

If that analogy isn't good enough, lets go with the proverbial impenetrable wall, and the unstoppable force; who wins, who should win, and why? There's no correct answer; except simple acceptance...........'the reeds that sway with the wind stay, while the tree that won't, falls'.

So many parables.

Perhaps no matter what pogram, or societal interference, something else drives synthesis; whether consciously, or not, we're all always trying to find our level, like water.....(consciously, or not)

My point in the above ramble? WTF is society doing? We're allowing directed pograms to point out everyone's difference, pitting groups against one another, simply by giving artificial heightened status. Maybe we need to fall back to everyone learning RESPECT, concentrating on self improvement, and realizing, or perhaps letting go to, the idea that 'everything comes out in the wash'.

.............God, I sound like Yoda.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To further a lie, out of convenience, or to further a larger narrative, because you think it's the 'best', is nothing more than lying to yourself, and basically amounting to 'kicking your own feet out from under you'.

Oh, if only I could write like that! I know this from experience, but you've described it succinctly.

WTF is society doing? We're allowing directed pograms to point out everyone's difference, pitting groups against one another, simply by giving artificial heightened status.

I will find it difficult to disagree with you in future, having read this. (I'm sure I'll find a way, though! ☺)