Migrants banned from Finnish schools and daycare centers after multiple child rape cases

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[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

DIVISION ALERT! That article is misleading.

It's not that they've "banned migrants"; it's that they've ended a programme that allowed random people into schools and nurseries.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Seriously, what's a 'division alert'? Who's getting divided? I'm actually a lot confused by your comment. The article is about parents tired of the new progress the government is forcing on them, which in turn is leading to an uptick in rapes. Are rapes divisive?

These parents, forced the govt to stop their forced integration program, that the parents partially blamed for the rapes. So no more refugees touring schools. Is that divisive?

I honestly don't comprehend your comment? It's divisive... Perhaps, you could comment on 'how you see the article as divisive'

We do live in the day, and age where the government has mandated, decreed that it's okay to lie, to convey story lines that are designed to sway public opinion. Do you see this article as such, and why?

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The title is "migrants banned from Finnish schools and daycare centers" but migrants aren't any more banned than the average person off the street.

The article is designed to fuel arguments against migrants – which is fine, if they don't lie to do so.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The article is about a 'migrant integration program' that was cancelled due to parents having strong concerns that it was directly connected to the increase in rapes of their children.

So while migrants are the focal point of the story, and thus by extension could be considered 'designed to fuel arguments against migrants', but I don't know how else you could write the story without them as a focal point.

Usually news reports on such violent crime is focused more so on the perpetrator, than the victim. But hey, okay.

So, I guess we're exemplifying two different mind outsets on how to view this wizzwizz4.

How would you characterize, or portray this article more correctly? Because, I see large groups of refugees are no longer allowed to visit schools; which could by way of a thesaurus be considered 'banned'.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

  • They're allowed to visit schools. They're no longer invited to visit schools.
  • The article implies that the group of immigrants has a higher rape incidence than the group of non-immigrants, but I've never seen any evidence to support that. In fact, there probably isn't any.
  • This isn't a report on violent crime.

Address these points please.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

point 1: Groups of migrants organized by the govt., and sent into schools has been banned by parents concerned for their children's safety. The article didn't reference individuals.

point 2: Well, when there are patterns, people notice them more so now than ever before, due to continually seeing the subversion instituted by govt., and media. Should you ignore a pattern? There was obviously enough of a pattern, that the people got their way, or do they deserve communal punishment?

is point 3 even a point? It's a bullet, but no, the article didn't address a single violent crime, they addressed a solution that patterning forced. It's pathetic that common folk have to look at 'patterns' anymore, but it's the fact, and if you really do study up, you'll see it's actually a fairly common talking point.

And that link you provided, I honestly haven't ever heard of them; I suspect that could be because the site is apparently more so for coding, and web development stuff? Interesting you'd attain facts from such an obscure place.

Well, I did one better, I used google, now over the last several years, I've seen google, and youtube both hide, push down, and bring up more favorable hits; they openly do this now, as part of our new radical paradigm of integration into communism... You know comrade... But, I digress

So as it stands today, and no further dates in the future, Google backs up the premise of undocumented illegal, and unchecked 'rapefugees' for multiple reasons being the source, and there's even a link to 'teaching migrants how to behave'..https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=H6RgXOvKJZ6t0PEPtd2GgAg&q=Finland+rape+uptick+corresponds+with+migrants&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Finland+rape+uptick+corresponds+with+migrants&gs_l=psy-ab.3...9527.22294..22331...8.0..0.96.3827.54......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0j0i22i30.hDBH02BpqPM

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

  1. The article says, right there in the title, "migrants banned". This says that the individuals are banned; otherwise it would be "migrant visit programme banned" or something.
  2. Are there patterns, or just patterns in reporting? Because many, many rape cases go unreported. The ordinary is never news, unless there's an ulterior motive.

  3. You said:

    Usually news reports on such violent crime is focused more so on the perpetrator, than the victim. But hey, okay.

    But that link looks like something to look into. Unfortunately, your results are completely different to my results; please use a link to a static search engine like duckduckgo that shows the same results to everyone.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To #1. you're entirely arguing semantics, why?

To #2. You're unfamiliar with patterning in the sense I posed it? How strange, I read a lot of people discussing similar, but you've got no clue. As far as rapes going unreported, you mean like the feminazi's are doing by silencing women, and children raped by rapefugees?

To#3 I do use duckduckgo, I also use bing, and google to compare search results. Often times, when talking with SJW's, I simply refer to Google, as it's more along that 'non polar opinion' right? Only in the google hemisphere, but they're impartial, right?! LOL

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. Because semantics can be misleading. The title says that migrants were banned, when in fact they were merely uninvited. They can get into schools just as easily as anyone else now; through the proper procedures.
  2. Unless your patterns are from going 'round asking people if they've been raped (which probably wouldn't give you good stats anyway) then your pattern is from the pattern in reporting. You should know that that's often completely unrelated to the pattern in the real world.

[–]Shaylee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Migrants banned from Finnish schools and daycare centers after multiple child rape cases By Emma R. 8 February 2019

The Finnish municipality of Oulu announces that migrants are no longer allowed to visit schools and daycare centers.

The reason is that parents have complained about so-called integration visits and feel worried about their children after the recent rape wave against young girls.

According to the Finnish police, the alleged perpetrators are male migrants who have come to the country in recent years and most of the rape victims are girls under the age of 15.

One of the places the media has highlighted in connection with the rape wave is the municipality of Oulu in North Ostrobothnia. In Oulu, the police are investigating at least ten migrants for serious sexual offenses against girls as young as ten.

As a result, parents have complained and expressed concern about how the municipality can allow the integration project ESIKOTO to continue.

ESIKOTO is an integration experiment where migrants visit schools and daycare centers to learn more about society through lessons and study groups. It is also supposed to promote multiculturalism.

However, now the municipal leadership chooses to meet the parents’ request and end the integration project.

Mika Penttilä, who is responsible for education and culture in the municipality, confirms that they, together with the organisers of the project have decided that there will be no more visits.

Recently, media reports on sexual offenses have also shown new crime statistics in the municipality of Oulu. Arto Karnaranta, Deputy Chief of Police, explains that sexual offenses in only one year – between 2017 and 2018, have increased by 20 percent.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for posting the article contents. Though I think you should make it clearer that you're quoting it

using the blockquote syntax

like so:

> using the blockquote syntax

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm guessing the moment most Europeans realized they as a whole are a subjugated people, held in bondage, as slaves was about the time, they told their governments they didn't want any more 'rapefugees', and their govts responded with a kind, "F-off", as you simply aren't enough to fill our coffers; bringing in more to replace. It all boils down to money after all. Sucks finding out you're not that free.