There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed.

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

do you have sources on this history? was it exclusively jewish, or just highly jewish influenced?

[–]spezz 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Of course I do and it was heavily jewish influenced, and of course I mean second and third wave feminism, first wave feminism was gentile and was influenced by enlightenment thinkers. Starting in the second wave of feminism, a predominently Jewish Marxist school of thought, the Frankfurt School, had it's ideas of sexual liberation, egalitarianism, gay acceptance, and most notably Cultural Marxism, pushed to the forefront of these movements that were once about women being able to own property.

(((Feminist Figures)))

Kathy Acker

Ellen Willis

Brenda Howard

Nina Hartley (half-jewish)

Laura Kipnis

Judy (Sussman) Blume

Judith Butler

Andrea Dworkin

Betty Freidan

Shulamith Firestone

Erica Jong

Gloria Steinem

Naomi Wolf

I've only listed a few it's quite an exhaustive list

Lists:

https://www.returnofkings.com/72572/why-is-there-a-prolific-jewish-presence-in-the-american-feminist-movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_feminists (Incomplete)

Frankfurt School:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/the_frankfurt_school_and_cultural_marxism.html (Right Wing Site)

https://www.marxists.org/subject/frankfurt-school/ (obviously a commie site but you can read their works here)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Were those women you listed by name all Jewish?

What was first wave feminism about? It was led by gentile women?

[–]spezz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

First question: yes

Second question: Voting rights and women being able to own property were two of the main issues pushed, and yes it led gentile women

edit: I forgot to leave that it eventually got co-opted by marxists, among those marxists the ratio was 50/50 jew and gentile

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

that's actually fascinating, it's like people buying chick fil a and then no longer standing up to the LGBT stuff

Do you have more to share about first wave feminism?

[–]spezz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I do. So one of the earliest feminists was an English woman by the name of Mary Wollstonecraft. Her writings were heavily influenced by the French Enlightenment philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau. She was for social and moral equality of both sexes. Although, she was around before any formal feminst movement came into existence a sort of "pre-feminst". Her writings would go on to influence some female abolitionists, because early feminism was directly correlated with the abolitionist movement. So yeah, her writings influenced some early American feminists: Sojourner Truth, Elizabeth Blackwell, Jane Addams, and Dorothy Day. And yeah that how the womens' rights movement started before Judeo-Marxism took hold of it. You read more off the wikipedia page and probably some other history sites since I just gave a tl;dr

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting, thank you for the summary. Was Rousseau a gentile? Where did his ideas come from?

[–]spezz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes he was a gentile, he was born into a Protestant family in Geneva (the city in Switzerland it was a republic at that time though). His ideas came other earlier enlightenment philosopher such as, John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, and Volatire. And then he was also influenced by ancient greek philosophers, Plato and Aristotle. You may know Plato wrote a book, "Republic". This is important because Rousseau's ideas were very influential for the French Revolution.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm trying to remember who the players were in the French Revolution. I have this vague memory of there maybe being a more gentile influence and a more jewish influence ("jacob-in"?) But I don't remember the details.

I will have to look more into it myself, I think, if I want to piece together these threads through history... it is interesting to know more about first wave feminism and how it was potentially co-opted... much like we've seen companies get bought and co-opted recently. Thank you for taking the time to share this perspective.

[–]spezz 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No problem, back on reddit I would have been immediately shouted down so it's a nice change of pace to see someone willing to listen to my views.