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[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The "free speech" makes more room for NPC-narratives and propaganda. From any side.
And usually based on lies.
"If you repeat a lie long enough..."

I noticed that the left hold on to the extremist lies (Orange man = Hitler),
while the right hold on to weak conspiracy theories (moonlanding = hoax).

Both sides are breaking their own ethics:
Left - "It is not fascism, if we use violence for OUR political goals"
extreme Right - "All jews should DIE, and they lied about genocide"

The left falls for fake science: "CO2 causes global warming", "vaccines stopped covid"
The right wants laws and no government.

[–]RedditButt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

extreme Right - "All jews should DIE, and they lied about genocide"

Then why do they make it out like the "extreme right" is the one who supports Israel going HAM on anyone they want to?

Also, CO2 is a big factor in global warming, along with methane. We've known this for over 100 years with empirical data to back itup, and it only got political when oil companies profits are threatened.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The left and right is a generalization of many facets of ideas.
The left is lately supporting each other lies to a larger extend, reaching to psychotic levels.

Based on physics CO2 is not responsible for any changes/warming.
Its greenhouse effect is limited to a small bandwidth.
While water has a very wide range, and is also reflecting depending on its state.

Changes in global climate is caused by the sun, which output energy changes in large cycles.
CO2 was much higher in history, and vikings harvested Hop on Greenland, because it was green.
Compared to the past, we are now in an ice-age.
(see /s/ClimateSkeptics )

It is all politics and insanity.

[–]RedditButt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's all detailed here: https://www.ipcc.ch/

The only reason to not take it seriously is a (likely right wing) political pundit duped you into thinking so.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You did not reply to the vikings/greenland issue.
So you are pretty dumb.

Look at those exposing the criminal level frauds by the ipcc..
Most of the data is altered.
Big government (WEF, Bilderberg, etc) has taken over institutions and are using it for politics, not science.

[–]RedditButt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Detailed_TT_Norms_Bold_Text_Outlined.svg

I'm literally at the top of the pyramid, and you can't manage to get past the bottom "you are dumb" part of the pyramid. I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I were you. There's nothing more to be said.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yep! Also, they all just want control without realizing they're gonna get the boot stomped on their face, too. It's just like Communists; they all think they're immune from the powerful forces turning on them once all their enemies have been vanquished. Liberals are learning that now in 2024 as the same illegals they advocated for in 2020 are getting free money and housing while they get screwed. Humanity never fucking learns...

Also:

The Left: Wants to control your bodily autonomy through forced vaccines, wants to control your thoughts using forced language/pronoun bullshit, wants to control you using big corporations and Silicon Valley to censor you via "hate speech" rules and own every aspect of your lives so you can "own nothing and be happy" cause Communism or some shit, and lives by the delusional dogma of woke social justice.

The Right: Wants to control your bodily autonomy by taking away your ability to opt out of parenthood (abortion) and who you're allowed to sleep with, wants to control whether or not you can get married or divorced and who you're allowed to marry ("no interracial relationships"), wants to control you using direct big government (especially with certain false-heroes like DeSantis), wants to censor you through anti-free-speech "libel and slander laws" even if it's justified or factual and not actual libel or slander, and lives by the delusional dogma of literal interpretations of Christianity and breaking the separation of Church and State.

Horseshoe Theory and all.

[–]RedditButt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You pretty much summed up the issues we have with the political compass. We are edging closer to totalitarianism on the up/down axis which is where our grievances are, but we are conditioned to argue about the left/right axis. Bringing this up on sites like reddit really pisses people off for some reason, and they never seem to get it, as they always feel they have to continuing to comment "yes, but the left/right is evil because...", as if they didn't read a single word.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah. And having met actual millionaires and billionaires in real life (banking/investment people,) I can assure you none of them are on the "left" or "right." It's only stupid working-class, non-rich plebs like us that fall for that tribalist bullshit, like I said in that post from a short while ago. I despise everything that is the woke, and in 2017, thought maybe right-leaning American conservatives really were the lesser of two evils. But no; bring up abortion, not forcing Christianity onto others, or not having blind unwavering allegiance to Israel, and they lose their shit and act as irrational as the left. I learned that shit by 2018 and haven't been proven wrong yet, especially with some of the so-called "conservatives" on this site.

[–]RedditButt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The rich still go for that tribalist bullshit, but it's the haves, and have-nots. They just keep the have-nots busy by further dividing them.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. Yeah, I just meant they aren't on either political side (outside of stupid Hollywood celebrities.)