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[–]NastyWetSmear 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm sorry, u/Questionable, what do you mean? I'm not following.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think he's saying it's called "food poisoning" because the food is poisonous and he doesn't believe microorganisms had anything to do with the presence of that poison.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you understood terrain theory, then you would understand bacteria creates toxins.

You would also know this simply by being a food worker, and having a food handlers card, as it is known to be the primary form of 'food poisoning' regardless as to which theory you believe.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I see. Thank you, but I'm still a little confused. I feel like the title suggests this is meant to all be clear and self evident, but if the food isn't becoming poisonous due to bacteria, how is the food in my house becoming poisonous after, say, 48 hours of sitting on the bench under the Australian sun? Does someone sneak in and lace it with poison while I'm not watching?

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I can't speak for OP, but maybe he has the same view of food spoilage that an ancient Greek philosopher might have: that food, especially when hot and moist, naturally turns into poison - that it's simply an immutable law of the universe, a foundational truth with no particular "why" behind it.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, if we're using that logic, I'll just burn a pig's penis, mix it with wine, then urinate in my dog's bed and be cured!

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Food poisoning is caused by poison in the food. Not germs. It's in the name.

Toxins that are caused by bacteria, Though aligned with terrain theory. Anyone who works int the food industry knows this to be true even under germ theory. You need to know this stuff just to get a food handlers card and work in restaurants.

Goodbye to Germ Theory Lecture With Dr. William Trebing November 21, 2021 Bronxville New York:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L6Xl36wyP4

A Farewell To Virology (Expert Edition) - Dr Mark Bailey :

https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition/

Biochemistry debunks Corona Virus, a look at Terrain theory:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/B1OuvLzH6P5i/

The End of Germ Theory:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ch8v4TVL9yq0/

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So I'm having trouble following you here. It feels like you're trying to say: The germs don't cause the sickness, the germs do something to the meat and the meat becomes poisonous. Eating the germs themselves would cause no harm?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You've never gotten a food handlers card have you? The bacteria creates toxins, thus Food Poisoning.

Debunking germ theory does not mean bacteria doesn't exist. The alternate theory is terrain theory. Which does not claim bacteria are fake, only the current definition and models of viruses.

[–]junior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Food handlers' cards educate individuals on proper food safety practices, reducing the risk of food poisoning caused by bacterial toxins.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's One way food poisoning occurs. I know there's a specific bacteria that leaves behind a toxin as it rots meat. Hang on a second. I'm sure I can find it.

Golden Staph! That's the one!

However direct bacterial infection, parasites or even some fungi can cause food poisoning. Unless you're trying to argue semantics and claim that it should be called "Foodborne Disease" if it's a disease you catch from bacteria on food, as opposed to poisoning, being more specific to the toxin left behind by some bacteria.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's simple, their arguments are based on the absence of germs.

To those who reject Germ Theory, how do you explain food poisoning

Food poisoning is caused by poisoning in the food. Just as stated in the namesake in the title. He clearly does not understand that germ theory, has more to do with viruses then to do with food poisoning, which is caused by toxins caused by bacteria.

Looks like saner replies have surfaced since I originally posted this thread. Making this whole exercise moot.

[–]junior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While the absence of germs may not provide a comprehensive explanation for illnesses, dismissing alternative theories without considering them limits our understanding. Open-mindedness and further research are crucial in exploring all possible causes of diseases.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You aren't really addressing my point there, just repeating your original one. Food poisoning can be caused by bacteria. There's only a small number of bacteria that leave toxins in food... I think it might only be Golden Staph, honestly, but I'm no biologist... As well as any number of other things, like parasites and fungus. The umbrella term is "Food Poisoning". I don't think we differentiate between poisoning and getting sick from the bacterial diseases, if that's what you're doing?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Correct. I am not addressing your point. As it has nothing to do with their misunderstandings over at reddit. Which was the bases of this thread here in /s/MeanwhileOnReddit.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it does, as what you're saying is currently understood to be totally incorrect, and I think that's the point the original post was pointing out.
That being said, if you don't want to talk about it, that's cool as well.

[–]jellyandjam 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It appears you're suggesting that germs alter the meat, making it toxic, rather than directly causing illness. However, consuming the germs themselves wouldn't be harmless. Clarification is needed.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your gut is already filled with bacteria. It's how your body works. At some point, too much bacteria, creates too many toxins. It's in the name "food poisoning". The name is literal, and to be taken at face value.