I got banned from a sub for posting *nuance* on the transgender issue. Nuance, and expressing opinions that go beyond the simple tribal ones, is apparently as bad to reddit mods and admins as going whole hog with the wrong tribe is.

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I support, 100%, transgender people's rights to have access to medicine that they want to have,

I can't believe you support people doping themselves up with cross gender hormones in order to seek "euphoria." Ever notice how much they use that word? And the backwards surgeries that cut off boobs and cocks are mutilation plain and simple.

We don't let doctors do this to people for any other reason. If it wasn't couched in this gender bullshit it would be illegal.

They promise the kids this will fix their depression, anxiety, and their hate of their bodies that are going through uncomfortable changes during puberty. How the fuck does cutting your dick off and replacing it with a gaping wound that smells like feces an improvement over anything?

I'm not alone in the concern that as a person who does not have entirely stereotypical male interests, had I been raised today I would have been told I'm really a woman. Instead of being taught that stereotypical gender roles aren't all that important usually. That was common in the 90s, we regressed to a stricter interpretation of gender norms oddly enough.

Pronouns

Fuck that noise. Everyone having personal pronouns is silly. I can't even believe the idea is entertained.

Nuance

You tried to make concessions to the trannies but the trannies don't want your concessions, and they punish you for trying. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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I can't believe you support people doping themselves up with cross gender hormones in order to seek "euphoria." Ever notice how much they use that word? And the backwards surgeries that cut off boobs and cocks are mutilation plain and simple.

People shouldn't be authoritarianly forced to what someone else feels is in their best interest. Any more than it should be the other way around. You can disagree with it all you want, where it stops is you getting to impose them to conform to the dictates of that disagreement.

I'm not alone in the concern that as a person who does not have entirely stereotypical male interests, had I been raised today I would have been told I'm really a woman. Instead of being taught that stereotypical gender roles aren't all that important usually. That was common in the 90s, we regressed to a stricter interpretation of gender norms oddly enough.

The problem is there are people who would assert transgender status WITHOUT such teaching, because it comes from something deeper. That's the whole problem with the ideologies - they aren't just certain sets of values but certain sets of "facts" and some of those facts are false. This is one on the anti-trans ideology. Just like a false "fact" on the pro-trans ideology is that you can just ignore the distinction of biological sex in favor of gender identity without consequence in every situation and circumstance.

You tried to make concessions to the trannies but the trannies don't want your concessions, and they punish you for trying. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Obviously, neither do you want concessions given the posture you are taking. Pot, kettle, black. Thanks for proving my point. NEITHER want it. It's only "stupid" games that seek to get beyond this kind of posturing that'll work so I'll win all the stupid prizes it takes.