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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm saying it's a ridiculous comparison, because his friend can't produce preserved fruit in a disposable container at this price point(edit: price estimate <$.50 per pack) locally.

And why is that? Is that partially because all dollars are interest bearing loans?

We outsource food preparation to free up time to run a modern economy.

Well, we shouldn't, and we should focus on sustainability and using AI and technology to do things locally. But instead we have mcDonalds and Burger King and big corporations. Modernity is a cancer when proft becomes its motive.

[–]Nemesis 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Do you plan on producing AI and technology locally? This is precisely why we outsource tasks like food preparation, home building, furniture building, so we can divert time to specialized training (the years invested in a phd, research, etc) and resulting years working full time on the job. We have mcdonalds and Burger King because people buy mcdonalds and Burger King. it pumps your brain full of dopamine, its cheap, quick and predictable. I don't eat them, but many people do. We don't have fast food at the expense of AI, I would argue we may have AI someday precisely BECAUSE we have innovations like fast food that free up our best and brightest minds to pursue their full potential. Modernity is cancer, but not because people pursue profit. People have ALWAYS pursued profit. Please point to an actual historical period where people did not pursue their self-interest. It's intrinsically human to want something better and takes steps to achieve it, regardless the society, currency, etc.

As for the first part of your response, I think you misunderstood my post. The currency I listed isn't important - I used dollars because this website is majority American. You could convert 50 cents to gold dust, silver, bitcoin, whatever you prefer, the argument stands. The point is that economies of scale produces goods like this plastic tin of peaches CHEAP, much cheaper than he ever could in his backyard, because he isn't processing 100,000 peaches at a time and distributing through Walmart. That's why things are so cheap at the store, it's because things are cheaper when you do them in bulk. It literally has nothing to do with dollars being "interest bearing loans".

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please point to an actual historical period where people did not pursue their self-interest. It's intrinsically human to want something better and takes steps to achieve it, regardless the society, currency, etc.

You are confusing profit motive for something better or more money = wealth, which it does not. Christians were originally anti-Usury. Our current system is based on Usury.

You could convert 50 cents to gold dust, silver, bitcoin, whatever you prefer, the argument stands. The point is that economies of scale produces goods like this plastic tin of peaches CHEAP, much cheaper than he ever could in his backyard, because he isn't processing 100,000 peaches at a time and distributing through Walmart.

That's because price is a metaphysical reality. If we created an economy around welfare of the laborer and the fruits s/he produces rather than destroy him, then all would be good. Again, the sacrafice quota illustrates the barbarity in all of this.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have any ready links available for information concerning this "sacrifice quota" you have mentioned? I've never heard of this before

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://samisdat.info/blog/the-modern-idolatry

http://samisdat.info/books/the-modern-idolatry-1934/1934%20-The%20Modern%20Idolatry%20-%20Jeffrey%20Mark.pdf

The actual book is free on Archive.org. It is a decent read and talks about the sacrifice quota often.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you