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[–]MyLongestJourney 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Can not relate OP. I have no problem when in heterosexual company to listen to heterosexual people talking about their opposite sex partners and their children. I have no problem to share their joys and their sorrows and even offer some advice.

[–]schomee 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's because you have no idea what it's like to have a genuine community of other gays and lesbians. You sound like some broken person. It's like you're some martian who resigned yourself to live amongst the humans. We're alien to these people. You'd understand the feeling when you experience meeting your own "kind".

We come from heterosexuals and that's fine but let's not pretend there aren't hundreds of millions of markers of theirs that are tied to their sexuality that's alienating. We can write their love stories better than they can, make them cry over romantic, beautiful heterosexual romances that we've imagined...so it's not like theyre mysterious to us but we're still our own people and it feels completely different when you're in a room filled with a group of people you dont have to struggle expressing yourself to.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

Honestly, my idea of Hell is an eternity in a room full of only gay men. Especially when they exhibit the toxicity that can pop up in, for example, oh, I don't know, the comment to which I'm currently responding.

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    [–]hufflepuff-poet 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Dude why do you post the most homophobic comments? Sometimes I even agree with part of what you say about the importance of gay and lesbian community but then you say stuff like this and I'm back to disagreeing. This is homophobic, you're shaming effeminate gay men and calling them "damaged gay kids". I think you've let the toxicity of this debate poison your own views of the LGB community.

    [–]schomee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There is something very wrong with damaged gay and lesbian kids where, when they dont have a community to interact with, they end up being brainwashed and conditioned in ways that aren't meant for them.

    Yes, he annoys me. He's one of those "i'm not like the other gays" and then reveals he's exactly like the other gays and if he had an actual, functioning community, then he wouldn't be like this. I'm gay. I think gay feminine kids are cute and they can grow up properly and turn into compassionate, elegant and intelligent adults. That's how it used to be...but then because people like him lack a community, they end up perverting their femininity and turning into disasters by trying to imitate female femininity which is usually highly toxic and doesn't even fit well with gay male femininity. And then you get people like him: narcissistic, destroyed their face with plastic surgery, thinking they can be as annoying as possible because some man will come save and protect them because theyre obviously oh so fragile and feminine?

    Let's not pretend that the biggest danger to gays and lesbians is usually the broken, damaged gays and lesbians who are here to lecture us.

    As a gay person, i've also noticed the same perversions amongst lesbians. Joan of Arc was probably a lesbian. The first woman in space was a lesbian. The second woman into space was a lesbian. The first nobel laureate for economics who was a woman was a lesbian. You get it. When they were left alone, gays and lesbians nurtured the best parts of their femininity (gays) and masculinity (lesbians) to the point where we excelled beyond heterosexuals. The face of human genius that straight people present to humanity as a testament to our greatness is literally a gay man (Da Vinci).

    And what's happening to lesbians now? The exact same thing that's happening to gays. Since when is it natural or normal for a lesbian to channel her masculinity by acting like some black male from the hood? Especially when theyre white? The "yo" and all that. I've seen popular tiktokers acting this way. Femininity within gay males is natural and masculinity within lesbians is normal but what's so natural about a gay child pretending he's a sassy black woman when that behaviour and those people are so utterly beneath him and what's so natural and normal for a white lesbian to pretend to be some illiterate guy "from dah hood...homie".

    I recognize these people when i talk to them and i think you recognize their energy as well. I just find it repulsive and annoying. His theories are wrong, he's wrong, his personality is wrong and he contributes nothing. We can't assimilate into heterosexual culture because it's incompatible with us and you end up getting twerking gay kids and ghetto lesbian "homies" and we're just better than that.