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I'm going to leave this up, but let me explain.

This wasn't an LGB spa/bath, and this clip and the issue isn't relevant to our sub. It's adjacent to what we're doing here, but it's not our cause. This is more appropriate for a sub like s/GenderCritical, it has already been shared there a few times, and I would encourage users to go share their support there.

This was a Korean spa with sex-exclusive spaces (which allow nudity) as well as co-ed (which do not). Unfortunately, the degenerate perv is safe under California discrimination laws, as "gender identity" is a protected class here. The business and it's employees could not do anything unless the man violated other laws, and this video isn't evidence of whether he did or didn't.

The woman being recorded tried to imply that the white knight (no pun intended) was gay as a rebuttal to him saying he wouldn't care if nude women were in the men's space. So whether or not we agree with her stance on sex-segregated spaces, we also have to acknowledge she used homophobia as a weapon.

Now THAT is a cause we need to address.

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I didn't hear any homophobia. I just heard her make the correct argument that if he didn't like women he might not be so quick to say he would not have any problems with naked women in his lockerroom.

If you heard homophobia you are going to have to explain that one to me

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OUTSIDE WOMAN SPEAKING: If we went into the mens section with our anatomy, that would be ...
MAN: That is your anatomy, that doesn't offend me.
RECORDED WOMAN: Well it wouldn't probably, but you might not like women, so it might not, OK and we don't know ...

Homophobia can be subtle, it's not always people screaming slurs like "faggot" and "queer".

Why did a man who says he doesn't care about nude women get referred to as gay? Why was his sexual orientation even brought up?

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For one you don't know if she meant sexual orientation or "not like women" as in being not ok with them in his space like women dont like men in their space because no where did anyone say he was gay.

In fact i think he was straight and all the other women clocked him as just another straight guy mansplaining women why they arent allowed to be upset. Which is why she later said you are not a man. Not because she thought he was gay, but because hes an asshole defending perverts instead of upset women.

And second, in the heat of the moment there are not a lot of ways you think of to explain to a straight man who has no issues with naked women that there are men who are not so happy with having naked women in their space because he is too ignorant to understand what women go through because of men.

I did not sense homophobia here at all, just upset women.