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[–]julesburm1891 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

especially in women-only facilities where non-binary and trans women feel pressured to look feminine, such as wearing form-fitting sports clothing or make-up

  1. Isn’t transwomen’s whole thing pretending to look feminine? And now they’re mad about it?
  2. Having gone to the gym for the past 15 years and only ever worn running shorts and t-shirts, I can confirm it’s a pretty normal thing that a lot of women do. No one is judging you for not coming in full spandex.
  3. Who the actual fuck is wearing makeup to the gym? Sorority girls who are using the college rec as a social outing. That’s who. No one actually going to run, swim, lift, whatever is piling on foundation. And absolutely no one gives a fuck if you don’t have on makeup.
  4. This whole article is as absurd as if I wrote a piece complaining that clubs don’t cater to introverts like myself. Sometimes, if you want to participate, you have to get over your shit and not expect the entire world to accommodate you.
  5. Why on earth is this being framed as and lgbtq issue? It really seems like a t issue.

[–]chandra 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Isn’t transwomen’s whole thing pretending to look feminine? And now they’re mad about it?

Now now, that would be gatekeeping. Trans activists today have realised that any concept of womanhood that's based on physical appearance would end up excluding some males and so, since exclusion is the ultimate sin, they've completely untethered the concept of womanhood from anything that can actually be observed.

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transwomen know the only actual requirements for womanhood and lesbianism, respectively, are “be an adult female” and “be a homosexual female.” They also seem to get that they’ll never fulfill these definitions, so they try to abstract and redefine womanhood and lesbianism to nebulous, quasi-spiritual terms that they can weasel into. (God be damned if these new terms exclude women and lesbians!)

Which really seems like how we’ve gotten to the nonsense of “transwomen face prejudice at the gym because they’re pressured to wear makeup and spandex.” Anyone who’s ever been to a gym knows this is bollocks. The only reason transwomen face “prejudice” is because they’re a man in the women’s locker room that everyone else sees and understands as a man.