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Incels are just the reactionary opposite to extreme radical feminism on the spectrum of divisive gender ideologies. Change my find.
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[–]Pikanto 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (57 children)
You're making a lot of mistakes and bad comparisons.
1) Incels are more about emotional pain, never connecting with the opposite sex, never being desired by the opposite sex, never even getting a simple date. This is due to the fact that women are free to make their own money and scrutinize men's looks unlike ever before. Tinder and dating sites are horrible for below average looking men.
2) Feminism is about equal oppertunity for women socially. Inceldom is about genetic determinism. It means that if you're born ugly in this age, you're doomed to be forever alone.
3) It has NOTHING to do with sex. Any idiot can pay for a prostitute. It has to do with never being desired, never pair bonding, fulfilling your innate genetic desire to start a family with a loved one.
To elaborate on point 1. Women have never had it this good and they can discard atleast 50% of the men with below average looks. This is what they will do: - Hold out till 30 years old, hoping to get fucked by a (possibly drunk) chad. Most likely get pregnant too. - Now they either stay single or snatch a very average looking middle aged guy to pick up their mess. (AKA cucks raising someone else his child in a very dull romanceless, passionless relationship)
Please understand that true, ugly, incels aren't even on the scale of consideration. Reasoning from your own experience is useless, because you have no experience of being below the threshold women hold these days.
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Celibacy has two categories:
Voluntary.
Involuntary.
I think you strawmanned him pretty damn hard.
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https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/1645/incels_are_just_the_reactionary_opposite_to/2ecm
No you definitely strawmanned him.
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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (7 children)
If women aren't attracted to you, you are incel. If you do get sex as an incel, it's because you betabuxxed.
Money doesn't create attraction after all, only physical looks do, and dark triad (10% of the total SMV).
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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (5 children)
Women's attraction isn't purely physical.
Did I say it is?
here are plenty of very unattractive people who find suitable mates
Yes, who?
[Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (as per my reality).
11 meta-analyses show that, across cultures, people tend to agree about who is attractive and who is not, and that attractive people are judged more positively and treated better.
https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/15uj/there_are_entire_subreddits_dedicated_to_rating/
Don't fall into a negative feedback loop.
Reality is more positive than lies that I assure you. I have never been happier after realizing how everyone has been lying to me.
Btw, u/austin also agrees with me and he's not young at all. Same with many oldcels here. 😉
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[–]Pikanto 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago* (43 children)
If that's all you got from my explanation then god help you. I suggest FACEandLMS on youtube if you want more information.
You seem to be hung up on the INCEL term. The truth is that being BLACK PILLED and accepting Genetic determinism is at the core of this "Incel philosophy". I can agree that the term incel is too focused on sex and can be confusing.
You act in your responses like this is entitlement. I never said anyone is entitled to anything (if you read my post carefully it doesn't even imply that), I described what people innately desire. And men have fallen on increasingly hard times. On dating sites women mark 80% of ALL men as below average looking. This is statistically impossible. What you fail to see is that women have unlimited options these days and even a 5/10 to 6/10 is helpless in this dating market. Remember times have changed, women can make their own money, freely have sex because of birth control and can scrutinize men unlike ever before. This gives a great deal of weight to genetic determinism. Bad looks = Bad life, working hard is an excuse and a cope. Even average looking men are fucked on tinder these days. The only thing they can do is dumpster dive extremely ugly women.
But sure, just work hard and it'll work out. You're old school advice is so out of place and out of touch with reality, it's honestly sad. You keep asking people for their age. I bet you're old and completely OBLIVIOUS to the current dating scene.
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Bad looks doesn't automatically mean your life is relegated to living in the sewer coming up only occasionally to feast on trash.
Just because you're short and ugly you won't necessarily end up in the sewers (what a strawman ufufu).
Check the wiki for more information.
You're world view is myopic.
You have been dragging the pyramid of debate down on this thread, throwing platitudes around, asking people for their age in order to dismiss them. Consider this a warning.
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I bet you're old and completely OBLIVIOUS to the current dating scene.
Remember to visit /s/BlackPillScience to rekt the bluepillers.
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