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Incels are just the reactionary opposite to extreme radical feminism on the spectrum of divisive gender ideologies. Change my find.
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[–]curryvirgin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (16 children)
Incels predate not just feminism, but humanity. It's simply the result of an oversupply of males, resulting in ones that never mate and reproduce. Imo, it's not necessary to identify as one, or to hate women etc. to be one.
Some rules that people made up, now challenged by feminism, helped to harness these males to provide work to society, but there still has always been excess, and will always be excess due to how we reproduce.
The species can propagate easily, even if more men become incels. Pre-agrarian society had 17 women passing on offspring for every 1 man.
Technology could allow this ratio to increase even further now, without jeopardizing humanity- simply have robots do the work that unnecessary males that aren't good enough to mate would have, and let them rot. Then legalize prostitution, or create sex bots to pacify them. I am not hopeful for the future.
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Sure you can betabux to get laid, but women will only ever be attracted to the top 10% of men.
Oh and something else, many prostitutes or brothels restrict certain races or not natives to have sex with them.
[–]curryvirgin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (13 children)
I'm not sure how many of Amsterdam's finest choose to carry their work to full term. I figure it's a fairly low number. I guess this is where the mess of human sexuality and reproduction, and maybe morality complicate things.
I guess the reason to suggest Amsterdam is that there's no punishment there for buying prostitution. Putting aside human trafficking and organized crime concerns, if all a person wants is sex, that's probably a good option for them. If you have moral/personal or legal qualms about it though, I don't think it's a valuable suggestion. By the same token, you could just have sex with a man (or a sheep), or roofie someone and have sex.
You've done it, at that point, if this is all just about sex. But you're very far removed from how things are meant to go. As a person, you are still unlike the majority of people that manage to have sex without paying for it, and the reasons for this remain and continue to affect your life. Your psyche will continue to reflect this.
You could counter that a person still has had sex at that point. That might be enough for some people. I still think in relating to being an unnecessary male though, it solves nothing. It's only a confirmation that you are unfit to be a mate.
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[–]curryvirgin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (4 children)
I'm not sure if you misread that by choice or honest confusion. I am not entitled to a 10/10 girl, or any girl, or anything apart from dying, by being alive.
I didn't mean that we are meant to automatically have these things, that I am entitled to sex with a 10. I meant that prostitution is not how most people normally have sex.
On the other hand, it sounds like entitlement is behind your thinking that if you just try hard enough, you can obtain success with women. That's the entire basis of niceguy thinking- "I did good and tried hard enough, so I must be rewarded with sex". This is not guaranteed as well.
What if you cannot try enough to overcome the reasons you do not have success? Is success guaranteed? I figure it isn't, and so just like a swallow with tail feathers too short to attract a mate, a person can be an incel.
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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
Jeremy meeks also didn't try and he succeeded, women also don't try and they succeed. You don't have to try, you have to be good-looking.
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Don't know about ugly, but surely they aren't short? Check the wiki.
[–]Xas 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (5 children)
The issue is not being entitled. The issue is that companionship is an innate human need. And the issue is not try harder. You seem like a noob to this topic. You take the incel word literally without realizing that it basically stands for companionshipless, and when that is pointed out to you you say incels are entitled for feeling bad for being unable to fulfill a basic human need despite immense effort.
The issue is trying hard and having a lottery like chance of success, with constant failure after failure, all while seeing chad succeed with no effort at all. And even if success is achieved in a rare moon, hypergamy means the rare relationship may still end after a short period.
Have you not seen the blind date tv programs, were the woman is very happy chatting for like ten minutes with a guy, connecting saying how good a match they are, kissing, etc. Just to act completely disgusted and shocked after the lights turn on and reveal a below average looking man? That's your personality and good conversation for you.
At the same time that a chad touches a women and is thought of as daring and attractive, an incel merely approaching and saying hi is seen as an insult and offensive, often making the woman feel uncomfortable. People have been reported to HR merely for making women uncomfortable merely by their presence, without any action.
You seem to still not counter any of the points in this thread, this is your 2nd warning, and a pretty severe one at that.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
You didn't disagree with anything, you only said some irrelevant platitudes.
That's not what he meant.
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