Identity

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I didn’t ask about the body part because honestly I don’t care about that part.

I believe dysphoria is an actual (mental) condition. I can accept the idea of feeling that type of discomfort and wishing you were the opposite sex.

What I don’t understand and am offended by is the insistence on gender identity or the whole idea that “woman” “man” “female” “male” are senses of identity that matter more than the actual concept and meaning of those words.

I could even understand someone saying “look, we know we aren’t women but we’d prefer it if people pretended we were” or “if people see us as women they will treat us better and we will be safer/discriminated against less so we pretend to be women when we can”

But that’s obviously not what’s being said. So I’m focused on the actual idea that a sexed state of being that you just are or aren’t by chance is an identity.

Im asking because they can’t ever actually explain why their identity is something we should support, accept or take seriously. They just seem to think that we should support it. accept it and take it seriously because they claim it. Even though it makes no sense and is a literal insult to the people they claim to identify as/with.

[–]SnowAssMan 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The gender-swap cult co-opt 'gender identity' to refer to a 'cross-gender identity' which is determined by simply having the "strong desire" to be the opposite sex.

I don't think gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. It's just a sign of latent homosexuality. It's not something that exists outside the modern day West, so it's not something anyone can be said to be born with. However, the transsexual is probably a homosexual throwback, as smaller populations in the past would have left gay people with little choice but to conform to heteronormativity in such a way that they could still have same-sex pairings.

Maybe pretending to be a woman works for the individual, temporarily, but any sort of movement should concern itself with the acceptance of feminine gay men (autogynaephiles can do one). Chandler's dad was a feminine gay man, so was Dill from the Crying Game. I feel like society is less accepting nowadays of people like Kai Decadence than they would have been without the trans movement advocating that "TWAW".