"Why aren't children sexless even though they can not release eggs or sperms?

Sure someone who removes all their sex organs in a surgery once had sex organs, but now they don't, and they don't meet the definition of sex, which requires one to have certain organs and release gametes. So why aren't they considered sexless or less of a sex?"

FairyPrincess you're the one who brought up this ridiculous idea in the first place, then freak out when someone is being somewhat charitable to this nonsense saying they could see it that way in very specific circumstances figuratively but not literally. You're the one making sex out to be much more complicated than it actually is. Even asking these questions in the first place proves you don't know what you are talking about. Sex isn't some abstract philosophical quandary than can be postulated, redefined and undefined to death. It's an easily verifiable objective fact that we have understood for 1,000s of years. We just a have a deeper understanding of it through modern science now.

If you cut off a cat's tale it is still a cat. If you surgically install a dog tail on the cat it is still a freaking cat! Same thing applies to human sex. All the surgeries, hormones and roleplay in the world cannot turn a man into a woman. If you cut a man's dick off he is still a man. If you surgically install a poor imitation of a vagina on him he is still a man. He still has a male body. It is physically impossible to turn a male body into a female body. The most we can do with our current technology is make a poor imitation. Ted talk about how fundamental and all encompassing in every cell of your body sex differences are Binary sex denialism/obtuseness just makes the Query Theorists look foolish and ignorant.

You're taking things way too literally and being deliberately obtuse. If your only method of engaging with GC is deliberately misunderstanding and misrepresenting what we are actually saying there is no point in discussing anything with you.

The issue here is your tendency to take things people say on the internet at face value and in this case as the authoritative representation of what all "GC" believe. For example, when emptiedriver said

It's perfectly reasonable to consider children essentially sexless. Girls and boys are not yet women and men. They're distinct but until puberty the distinction is minimal.

You read every word in that post the most literal way possible & took it as the gospel truth. When, in fact, what emptie said is not actually, precisely true - something I suspect most readers understood, but which you chose not to.

Worse, you then rephrased what emptie said in a more extreme way, pretending what he or she really meant was

that children have no sex until puberty, there is no such a thing as a female or male child until puberty

And

there is no such a thing as a girl or a boy, because the difference is minimal and they're essentially sexless

Which I don't think is what emptie really meant after all.

For the record, as emptie has now clarified, human beings have a sex from the moment of conception. Moreover, there are many on the GC side like me who would respectfully disagree with emptie's initial contention that prior to the puberty of adolescence, the distinction between the two sexes in humans "is minimal."

Sex differences have been observed & recorded in human placental cells five days post fertilization, and in the metabolism of human zygotes fertilized in labs via IVF earlier than that. Human sex differences precede the development of gonads in utero.

Those of us who have had prenatal testing when pregnant know full well that many of the fetal abnormalities tested for are sex-linked. Same goes for a number of the conditions that babies in the US, most of Europe & many other places are routinely screened for through mandatory blood draws & genetic testing shortly after birth.

Once children are born, there are myriad physical differences in male & female human beings that are relevant medically and in terms of hygiene & safety from the get-go. The growth & development of infants is closely monitored & charted, but the charts are different because the normal ranges for boys' and girls' weight, length & head circumference are different. Moreover, the rate at which boys & girls grow and gain weight are different too.

More care needs to be taken when diapering female babies after bowel movements because the location of the female urethra unfortunately close to the anus makes girls highly susceptible to UTIs from fecal contamination. This is not an issue when diapering boys because the male urethra is inside the penis - and the little penises of boy babies are far from the anus. However, getting sprayed on definitely is an issue when diapering baby boys, but not girls.

Toilet training boys & girls is different. Teaching boys & girls how to cleanse & care for their "privates"is different too.

Many of the same genetic and childhood diseases manifest very differently in the two sexes, and have different trajectories, treatments & treatment protocols depending on whether a child is male or female. Many diseases that occur or become apparent in childhood are sex-specific. And diseases that occur at the same rates in both sexes still affect boys & girls very differently because of the many differences in male & female physiology. An excellent example is cystic fibrosis.

Female babies & children mount stronger immune responses to vaccines, and thus have more "side effects" than males.

Kids get tummy aches all the time. But when there's serious abdominal pain such that acute appendicitis is suspected, the assessment procedures & criteria are entirely different because the two sexes have different internal organs. For girls, even very little girls, the possibility of ovarian cysts, uterine problems as well as sex abuse, rape, pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy & STDs have to be taken into account.

Because boys' gonads are external, very exposed & easy to injure, boys have to be taught to protect themselves in play & sports - and they need to be equipped with cups when they do contact sports. At the same time, girls of all ages are more susceptible to concussion than boys are, and need to be trained and equipped accordingly.

If a boy of any age tells his parents or teachers that there's blood in his underwear, the appropriate response is alarm & efforts to get him to a doctor pronto. If a girl of age 8 or above does the same, the appropriate response is further inquiry with a cool head and - most likely - showing her how to use sanpro.

Youth athletic records show that boys outperform girls in most sports long before the puberty of adolescence begins.

Read up on the physical development of males and females in utero, in infancy and in childhood, and you'll find that there are many, many important biological differences between boys & girls long before the puberty of adolescence kicks in. After all, the puberty of adolescence is actually the second puberty children go through. The first one, aka "the puberty of infancy," occurs from the end of the first month after birth into or through the six month.

The youngest girl on record to have given birth was 5 years old, 7 months at the time. It's a travesty to suggest that she was sexless.

Also, the puberty of adolescence typically occurs years before girls become women and boys become men. In girls, puberty is only considered precocious if it starts before age 8, in boys before age 9. Boys & girls don't become men & women until age 18.