GC: Is attraction to "trans men", "trans women", etc separate from sexualities? Or is it not separate? And what are the arguments against "trans women are biologically female", "trans men are biologically male", "trans women are less of a man/male", and "trans men are less of a woman/female"?

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[–]emptiedriver 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

So these trans activists have no trouble understanding, or even expect, that when a person transitions their partner will no longer be attracted to them?

I think for most GC people, the variations of attraction that don't have to do with sexual orientation (whether you feel physically aroused by same sex or opposite sex partners) are basically personality things, the same way all the variations of style, haircut, hobbies, speech affectation, are personality things. Putting it all under the umbrella of "gender" is locking it into a social role. Just be yourself, do what you like, like who you like, but you don't have to define yourself by rules of the culture.

Your sex is a physical fact so you can't "identify" in or out of that, but things like whether you like skirts or dating people with nail polish is just details. If you've got a thing for people who wear skirts, that's a psychological connection you've made somewhere along the way. If you're aroused by chemical reactions, that's an orientation (and if it happens with both sexes, you're bi).

[–]AlexisK 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Those questions are always forgetting different cultures, where manly men can look like transwomen or wear dresses and where dresses or skirts can be forbidden for women to wear, so transman here or transwomen there would be seen just as regular females or males accordingly.

In general, just cultural aspect is breaking apart whole gender ideology. Same with sexual orientations (and that conversion therapies had no effect on changing sexual orientation) which are making all gender ideology arguments to make no sense.

I think for most GC people, the variations of attraction that don't have to do with sexual orientation

I would not say it is for most GC people, it is true for most people period. Sexuality is not social, but biological, function. And we could saw that in last 50+ years, when women started doing "men's jobs" and wearing "men's clothing" - we did not got much more gay men and it is not considered as change in sexuality either. At least until last 5 years, when gender ideology started changed meanings of words every few months, so even for QT people it is impossible to clearly understand anything anymore.