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[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Any woman should run in the opposite direction of any man who takes pride in being straight, just as they should from any men talking about how sex positive he is. Men don't care about you, they care about passing off their fetishes as politics and strength of character. Some will try to pass it off as protecting women, then start whining when women don't reward them with sex for it. It's always going to be a horrible misogynistic cesspool and you'd think that women would learn this by now. Being confidently "straight" generally means going through the endless mountain of misogynistic straight porn so that any alternatives have simply not had time to get on your radar, or having patriarchal beliefs about women strong enough that you refuse to even consider anyone else being placed in that role. Ironically this sexuality is more in line with genderism: these men have a fetish for misogynistic feminine caricatures of women that they've been sold by other men, not for actual women the way you might see in lesbians, hence the extreme hatred they harbour for women despite said sexual attraction. Male "heterosexuality" is very much divorced from an attraction to women, it's either a fetish for lifeless caricatures that they've been trained to rub themselves to all their lives, or it's violence and entitlement aimed at social inferiors.

[–]worried19[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Well, the movement was started by a kid on TikTok who was getting called transphobic for not wanting to date trans women. I'm not saying male heterosexuality is unproblematic. Clearly pornification is a huge social problem for males as well as females. But this movement was straight men standing up against sexual entitlement, just as lesbians and gay men have done in the past.

You're right that these men are not feminists. It's not like we can count on them to have our backs. I hope I didn't give that impression. But it was still nice to see solidarity. There was a ton of diversity on the sub, and a general feeling of support for women and minority sexual orientations on this issue.

[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh boo-hoo, some straight man thinks he's a victim of persecution, I guess this deserves a whole movement now.

this movement was straight men standing up against sexual entitlement

By waving their dicks around talking about how turbo ultra straight they are. What does that remind me of?

it was still nice to see solidarity.

Misogynistic men coincidentally getting mad at something superficially similar to what feminists get mad over is not solidarity. When will women stop running back to lick men's boots the moment men just get distracted from oppressing them for one second? If you're a misogynist, then your opposition to trans rights is meaningless. Views based in religious worship of patriarchal hierarchies are just as oppressive as trans ideologies.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean, it was started by a 16 year old kid. Where's the proof that he's some awful misogynist? There was nothing in the original video that pointed to that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191d2iCBfik

Were you on the Super Straight sub? It wasn't just straight guys. There were also huge numbers of women and non-straight people. Gay men and lesbians and bisexuals. I didn't say I was licking anyone's boots, just that it was nice to see people come together in solidarity.

[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Um, you do realise that teenage boys are extremely misogynistic, right?

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where is the evidence that this particular teenage boy is some horrible misogynistic asshole?

It doesn't sound to me like you were even on the Super Straight sub, but regardless, it doesn't seem like we're getting much out of this discussion.

[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because teenage boys are generally misogynistic, especially teenage boys waving their straightness in your face? "Where is the evidence that every single man is misogynistic?" I dunno, maybe because almost all of them are and that's why we live in a patriarchy?

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you upset because the kid is straight? Or because the kid is male? I don't get it.