Both: Early childhood socialization and what causes people to become trans

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course we are shaped by our material world, but you are wildly speculating that causal relationship with gender dysphoria. You don’t need a mirror to look down.

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But only males can see their genitals when looking down, LOL! Girls and women can only see our mons pubis when looking down (prior to when we develop pubic hair, that is). But to see our genitals, girls and women definitely need a mirror or a camera.

More to the point, having distress over one's genitals is not required to get a clinical diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" or to be "trans" for either sex. And today, most males with gender dysphoria and an opposite sex "gender identity" do not dislike their genitals. Which is why hardly any get or desire genital surgeries. And why so many males who claim to have "gender dysphoria" and to be trans so frequently boast about the wonders of "lady dick" and "girl cock" and tell women to suck or choke on theirs.

Males with "gender dysphoria" nowadays are far, far more likely to get beard electrolysis, facial surgeries and procedures, dental procedures, silicone orbs implanted in their chests, hair transplants, procedures to lower their hairlines and so on than to have any genital surgeries.

Also, it wasn't just mirrors I was talking about - it's historical changes like indoor plumbing, electric lighting, central heating, the modern bathroom, and the relatively recently-developed custom of daily bathing/showering, and bathing/showering while naked and in solitude; and people increasingly living in homes where solitude and bodily privacy are possible, and having lives that allow for considerable amounts of time to be spent alone...

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This is getting nowhere. You have no proof of any kind that any of that is required or contributory to dysphoria. You also have no statistical basis your claims about the relative commonality of transition procedures. You are obviously just making things up here and it’s very transparent.