Both: Early childhood socialization and what causes people to become trans

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[–]worried19[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're still not defining what you mean as "feminine" beyond the most superficial sexist stereotypes of clothing, hair and "gendered things."

That's exactly what I mean. Those superficial gendered things along with the socially approved male and female cultural roles.

I'm not a parent or a researcher. I can only go off what I've read and experienced myself. I can't point to specific studies, but generally I thought it was accepted that boys see themselves growing up to be men and girls see themselves growing up to be women. Most girls do not imagine themselves growing up to become their fathers, I don't think.

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not a parent or a researcher. I can only go off what I've read and experienced myself. I can't point to specific studies, but generally I thought it was accepted that boys see themselves growing up to be men and girls see themselves growing up to be women. Most girls do not imagine themselves growing up to become their fathers, I don't think.

But you said as if it were a well-established, blanket truth applicable to everyone everywhere in every historical period that all little girls and little boys want to grow up to be "either a 'mommy' or a 'daddy' - not a woman or a man - and that it's "developmentally normal" for children to exclusively "identify with" parents of the same sex, even though not all children grow up with a parent of the same sex in the home.

If your views are based solely on your own experience growing up, what you've read, and what you assume/think is "accepted," then please present them that way instead of making grand statements that suggest you've got expertise in child development that comes from extensive study of the subject and perhaps also plenty of experience teaching and raising children.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're reading way more into my statement than was there.

If you have evidence that so-called "normal" boys see themselves growing up to be women or "normal" girls see themselves growing up to be men, then I'm open to hearing it. But I think it's been well established that the opposite is true. At least once kids understand that biological sex is fixed.