ALL: Would removing "real life experience" requirements from trans healthcare benefit everyone?

submitted by ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria from (self.GCdebatesQT)

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[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"Living as a woman" is pretty vague, since men & women can do all the same things. Pretty much anyone can pass that test. Just say you sit down to pee lol since that's the only difference I can think of.

I've heard of hormones alleviating dysphoria, but SRS (bottom surgery) often only exacerbates the problem. I've seen a study where suicide attempts & therapy visits increase after SRS (& I mean proper attempts, not self-reported, but recorded hospitalisations as a result of the failed attempt):

https://segm.org/ajp_correction_2020 – would not recommend.

People with BIID have positive outcomes after the offending limb is removed, yet that is still illegal in the West.

The only cure to dysphoria is desistance. It'd probably be difficult for anyone to get therapy that doesn't encourage transition nowadays though.

As far as I can tell, desistance happens naturally, except in rare cases where the person has an unresolved trauma or other mental health issue. Maybe going to therapy about something other than genital dysphoria might help you & others in your situation.

[–]ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Living as a woman" is pretty vague, since men & women can do all the same things

What they mean is calling yourself a woman and trying to pretend to be one in public.

The only cure to dysphoria is desistance. It'd probably be difficult for anyone to get therapy that doesn't encourage transition nowadays though.

I, uh... that's called "repression" and it doesn't work. Lots of us have tried it for years or even decades, and things didn't get better.

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But the majority desist naturally, most of whom realise they were just gay all along. If you have no desire to be the opposite sex, isn't what you are experiencing more closely related to BIID? They've changed GID recently to a 'condition' called gender incongruence, meaning a strong desire to be the opposite sex &/or a strong dislike of one's own sex. It's not a pathology anymore.

[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How in the world did they manage to argue that severely debilitating anxiety and hatred of one's perfectly normal healthy body to the point of suicidal ideation isn't a pathology?

[–]ntr4ctrAdult Male with gender dysphoria[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course I'd want to be the opposite sex, I'm just self-aware enough to realize that I'm a man and always will be and will never be a woman or even be able to understand what being a woman would be like.