GC (but anyone can comment): Why are women more supportive of trans rights than men?

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I actually have a question for you, OP.

I’m sure by now we’ve all seen multiple posts on multiple platforms where someone admonishes straight men and lesbian women for not considering TW as sex partners. Why, in your opinion OP, is it that lesbians are seen asking for help in overcoming their “genital fetish” or “cisnormative bias” or “unacknowledged transphobia”, sometimes even having traumatizing sexual encounters for no reason other than feeling guilted or pressured into sleeping with a TW (there were two posters on the reddit sub who went through this, and I have a friend who went through this too, as well as having seen a few reddit posts about this- so this isn’t hypothetical)- but men just say “nah” and aren’t pushed or guilted or shamed?

Why do you think JKR is being sent death and rape threats and being endlessly harassed, but not The actor who plays Hagrid?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I’m sure by now we’ve all seen multiple posts on multiple platforms where someone admonishes straight men and lesbian women for not considering TW as sex partners. Why, in your opinion OP, is it that lesbians are seen asking for help in overcoming their “genital fetish” or “cisnormative bias” or “unacknowledged transphobia”, sometimes even having traumatizing sexual encounters for no reason other than feeling guilted or pressured into sleeping with a TW (there were two posters on the reddit sub who went through this, and I have a friend who went through this too, as well as having seen a few reddit posts about this- so this isn’t hypothetical)- but men just say “nah” and aren’t pushed or guilted or shamed?

People can have sex and decline sex with whomever they want.

Why do you think JKR is being sent death and rape threats and being endlessly harassed, but not The actor who plays Hagrid?

JKR is more well known. I didn't even know who played Rubeus Hagrid until I googled it just now. There were 2 actors, Martin Bayfield and Robbie Coltrane. Coltrane defended JKR's comments about trans people. I had no knowledge of this. Though if a man as well known as JKR said the same thing, he would absolutely get the same treatment.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

  1. Not my question. I know people can choose who they sleep with. I asked you why you think it is that females are the ones giving in or guilt tripping themselves over not being open to sleeping with them? Also- why are so many tras pushing for people to include people in their sexuality that their sexuality naturally doesn’t include?

  2. Lol. You’re really saying that jkr is getting death and rape threats because she’s well known???? Wow. Fucking wow. I’m not well known- why have I gotten death and rape threats? Why are memes about killing and raping “t*rfs” so common? We aren’t all well known.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Not my question. I know people can choose who they sleep with. I asked you why you think it is that females are the ones giving in or guilt tripping themselves over not being open to sleeping with them? Also- why are so many tras pushing for people to include people in their sexuality that their sexuality naturally doesn’t include?

I don't know why females are guilt tripping themselves. Also, most TRAs encourage people to examine themselves and perhaps broaden their preferences. But most TRAs think people have the right to exclude trans people from their dating pool if they want.

ol. You’re really saying that jkr is getting death and rape threats because she’s well known???? Wow. Fucking wow. I’m not well known- why have I gotten death and rape threats? Why are memes about killing and raping “t*rfs” so common? We aren’t all well known.

That's not what I said. JKR is getting threats for her transphobic comments - which I don't agree with. I assumed you were asking why do women get threats and not men for making transphobic comments. I pointed pointed out that men will get the same treatment if they make these comments. Yes, GC men get anti-TERF comments as well. It's why r/GenderCriticalGuys was banned along with r/GenderCritical.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

  1. False. I see every day tras saying that not wanting to sleep with transwomen or transmen is bigotry. I see people everyday try to push “girl dick” onto lesbians and straight men. It’s everywhere. It’s just weird to me that you’d deny it when on average I see at least three posts or articles about things daily. Mass conversion therapy is being attempted and it doesn’t matter that not all trans people are pushing it because the ones who disagree aren’t speaking out nearly as much as those pushing it.

  2. Men do make these comments. They aren’t getting death or rape threats. They may get antiterf comments- their safety is not being threatened and they aren’t being pushed the ways they women are to accept the dogma or else. That’s the whole point. Females are threatened, males may be admonished. Again- this is easily seen. All the feminists subs on reddit are gone- the male subs that have a decidedly anti tmam/twaw stance are all still up unless they were specifically gc. Again, all of this is easily seen. If you’re not as well informed as you think you are that’s fine, but you’re absolutely wrong on both of these claims.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All the feminists subs on reddit are gone

Not just that. All lesbian subs were banned except porn-collector /r/Lesbians and validation of transbians and discussions of dicks /r/ActualLesbians (and few closed ones I will not name). While actively anti-trans gay men subs are still up, event hought they are under siege, but no one is banning them, even when they are much more anti-trans than /r/TrueLesbians, which were only "anti-penises", not even anti-trans. And even /r/AskGayBros is still up, even when they are all time dismissing transmen saying they are not men and not gays, and that they love dicks and not pussies, almost daily.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I've looked through numerous gay subs through google, including r/gaymen, r/askgaybros, r/broslikeus, r/mangonewild, and have yet to find transphobic content. One gay man even said fuck TERFS. Another said Because not enough trans men are on this sub! we need to show love to ALL male bodies ❤️.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry, this post was deleted

Lol.

I was mostly speaking about comments.

Or topics like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/ih9dk8/not_being_attracted_to_transmen_doesnt_make_you/

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/ii01jm/_/g35gsvn&context=3

Or even those, which are not deleted: https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/iicfio/my_sexuality_isnt_a_genital_preference/

For similar ones True Lesbians were attacked, brigaded and downvoted to hell. And then banned completely. And here everything is fine.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the thread "My sexuality isn't a GENITAL PREFERENCE.", a user called out OP's transphobia. Another thing is while some of the commenters are transphobic and yes transphobic comments need to be removed, these subs overall are not intended to be transphobic. If these subs were overall transphobic, yes they would be deleted.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

  1. Most trans people aren't like this.

  2. Yes men get rape and death threats for the same thing.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. The ones who aren’t like this are doing nothing to speak up against the ones who are like this.

  2. Show me men getting death and rape threats for saying TWAM please

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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