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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

they weren't, they were jews, at that time there was no such thing as christianity, just a jewish sect

[–]Cornfed[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No, at the time referred to they were a separate sect consisting of mostly ethnic Jews who were intent on expanding into the non-Jewish world, which was most of Paul's life goal.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

thats what i said

[–]Cornfed[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You said there was no such thing as Christianity. Clearly there was - it just happened to consist mostly of ethnic Jews.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

christianity didn't exist till a few hundred years later when the romans codified it

like I said it was just a jewish sect then, of which there were many

[–]Cornfed[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Their religion clearly differed from Judaism, hence Paul's previous persecution of them. Most Jews didn't think of them as just other Jews in terms of their religion. There is no reason to require some kind of arbitrary codification to acknowledge the existence of a separate religion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the story with paul is yeah he persecuted them but then changed his ways and converted to judaism.

They controlled the temple, jesus Brother James was the high priest. That meant the top jew. They didn't use the term christian to call themself that, they were jews.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They would be considered Christians now. And Christianity is still a Jewish sect.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

interesting idea, agree and disagree, it is a jewish sect still but most christians would disagree with that

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I wouldn't say most, probably just anti-semites for the most part. And I doubt most of them are believers anyway, they just suck up to Christianity because they like how it's the "tradition".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

definitely wrong most would not just the antisemites, saying it's not a jewish sect anymore doesn't mean they're an antisemite it's just they'd think it's their own religion

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most Christians I've talked to recognize that it began with Judaism. Even some anti-semites accept this and get around it by saying that Jews are not "real Jews" (who according to them are white Europeans).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that's not the same as saying it is the same religion still

Yeah hitler and the nazis made up positive christianity which downplayed the jewishness of jesus. Can't just try to deny reality like that tho. They had planned to just do that as a segue into their nordic religion, which the thule society believed in. And mainly just using religion to brainwash people. Most would disagree just because they don't really know the history of christianity.