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[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

To insist we're all hackable animals is an abomination. It leads to abuse. It gives those in power their excuse to treat us like animals. The attacks on us that so many have fallen prey to, they're using the same warfare tactics as demons. That's a particularly heinous mortal sin. These people are literally behaving like demons. We shouldn't be nodding our heads and going along with it.

lothwolf dislikes this possibility so much that he blinds himself to the obvious reality. Why do the marketing and advertising industries exist? Because we're already hackable, even with the relatively miniscule data we have now. When our entire state is known by AI, control will be virtually total.

BTW, great video link in the top comment by onmyway4k.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i don't think people realise the amount of money and time spent perfecting hacking our minds by the advertising industries. I worked alongside some of those researchers in the 90's, writing code for their studies. The basic algorithmic mind fuck we were playing with then was bad enough - i felt the karmic repercussions for decades - so by now we must be puppets on a string.

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Ah, I did a number of years of training with 'Bandler & Grinder' (co-founders of NLP) and associates in the early 90s. We can be hacked like a computer by a skilled operator, or well written software.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.apa.org/research/action/speaking-of-psychology/memory-manipulated

This is along a similar vein, but provokes similar questions about being hacked. The very people that we're supposed to be able to go to for peace of mind may have the ability to alter memory.

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Kaitlin Luna: And how can human memories be manipulated?

Elizabeth Loftus:

  • They can be manipulated when people talk to each other after let's say some crime is over that they may have both witnessed.
  • They can be manipulated when they are interrogated by an investigator who maybe has an agenda or has a hypothesis about what probably happened and communicates that to the witness even inadvertently.
  • People can be manipulated when they see media coverage about an event, let's say it's a high publicity event that is talked about a lot on television or newspapers.

Thanks for this link. Depending on the 'strength' of the memory, even just the context in which you're remembering it can alter it. The human operating system is remarkably insecure. We don't need worry as much about those we seek out for help as much as those using more sophisticated technologies to manipulate whole societies through the internet and media.

Asked about her claims that creating false memories can be positive:

If I plant a false memory in you, does it have ripple effects, does it affect your later thoughts or your later intentions or your later behavior? And we've now shown that you can plant a false memory that you got sick eating a particular food, you got sick on pickles or eggs or strawberry ice cream and you don't want to eat as much of that food. We've planted false memories that you got sick drinking a vodka drink and you're not it is interested in the vodka drink. We've done the opposite, planted a warm fuzzy memory that you loved a healthy food, asparagus in our study, and people want to eat more asparagus. So if we can control people's nutritional selections and maybe help them live a healthier life maybe that's not a bad thing to do.

Not bad in theory, but what if it's vegan deciding what you should eat? Or, a Breatharian...