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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Geographical advantages, which lead to Europe having the advantage in Guns, Germs and Steel.

What geographical advantages lead to that?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Read "Guns Germs and Steel" by Jarred Diamond for a long and detailed explanation, but among others:

  • Eurasia is oriented east-west, while the Americans and Africa are oriented north-south.
  • That makes migration easier, as peoples can spread out a long way and keep the same latitude, which means the same growing conditions for crops.
  • Africa straddles the equator, which makes for almost impassable jungles, followed by the Sahara, which is millions of square miles of wasteland. Europe has nothing like that, and Asia's wide open steppes are far more hospitable than the Sahara.
  • Compared to Africa, Europe has almost the optimum climate for agriculture. Africa tends to have many more, and longer, droughts, Europe has relatively stable climate.
  • Due to its geography, Africa was subject to lethal endemic diseases which slow the population growth compared to Asia and Europe, which instead had pandemic diseases which perversely encourage economic growth:
    • aristocratic elites and population growth suppress wages and restrict democratic freedoms, which leads to economic stagnation;
    • but then a pandemic wipes out masses of people, leading to a shortage of labour;
    • the survivors can then demand more power and higher wages;
    • which leads to more democratic governments which in turn leads to better economic growth.
  • Whether by chance or geography, Eurasia had many easily domesticated large animal species (cows, Asian buffalo, goats, sheep, horses, donkeys, camels, reindeer) while the Americas and Africa had only one each (llamas, way down in South America, and native cows in east Africa). Even with modern technology and knowledge, most large species are impossible to domesticate.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Eurasia is oriented east-west, while the Americans and Africa are oriented north-south.

Africa is wider than europe. Neither is "oriented" in any direction.

That makes migration easier, as peoples can spread out a long way and keep the same latitude, which means the same growing conditions for crops.

The growing conditions vary greatly accross europe. Farmers don't migrate. Migrants are hunter gatherers. Migrants that settle down develop farming that uses whatever conditions are there.

Africa straddles the equator, which makes for almost impassable jungles, followed by the Sahara, which is millions of square miles of wasteland. Europe has nothing like that, and Asia's wide open steppes are far more hospitable than the Sahara.

Africa does not have impassable forests. Africa has savanhas.

Being in the equator is a huge benefit to farming.

The most advanced civilizations in africa existed in the sahara, namely the egyptian. Evidence shows that the rulers of egypt at the time were white.

Compared to Africa, Europe has almost the optimum climate for agriculture. Africa tends to have many more, and longer, droughts, Europe has relatively stable climate.

Absolutely absurd claim. Irrigation exists. White farmers in africa have no problem farming until the black governments take the farms away because it makes those farmers too wealthy.

Due to its geography, Africa was subject to lethal endemic diseases which slow the population growth compared to Asia and Europe, which instead had pandemic diseases which perversely encourage economic growth:

This is a self contradictory claim. Is disease good or bad?

You are clearly talking straight out of your ass. Making asolutely idiotic claims. I bet you think you could sell ice to eskimos with your, what I assume your arrogant ass thinks is cleaver, bullshit.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me: "Eurasia is oriented east-west".

You:

Africa is wider than europe.

That's nice dear. What does that have to do with anything I said?

Africa is about 7400 km (4600 miles) from east to west, Eurasia is nearly twice as wide at 14500 km (9000 miles).

At its widest, most of Africa is inhospitable desert (the Sahara), so not very useful for agriculture.

Neither is "oriented" in any direction.

They aren't circles. Both have a long dimension and a short dimension. Africa's long dimension is north-south, Eurasia is east-west. Hence, Africa is oriented north-south and Eurasia east-west. Which I am sure you already knew.

Farmers don't migrate.

"And that is why all farming is still based around the Fertile Crescent, where it started tens of thousands of years ago." 🙄

Farmers have been migrating for thousands of years.

Populations spread out and move. People migrate, including farmers, especially before the invention of the modern nation state and border controls. When they migrate, they take their techniques and seeds with them, and farm again. If they migrate in an east-west direction they will experience the same number of daylight hours, and more likely to have similar growing conditions. If they migrate in a north-south direction, they will experience changes in daylight hours, changes in the lengths of the seasons, and much different growing conditions.

Africa does not have impassable forests. Africa has savanhas.

You're kidding, right? Playing a joke? Central Africa is famous for its jungles. Even today, with deforestation having shrunk them significantly, almost 2 million square kilometres of Africa is rainforest.

Being in the equator is a huge benefit to farming.

"And this is why the most productive farmland in the world, like California, Europe, Brazil, Ukraine, etc are all on the equator!" 🙄

The equatorial climate zone is generally too hot and too wet for most farming. Of course you can grow some foods, but if you want the sort of intensive farming needed to feed eight billion people, you need more temperate or Mediterranean climates. And good soil.

Evidence shows that the rulers of egypt at the time were white.

The most advanced civilisation in African you have heard of is Egypt, but that's not saying much. If it wasn't for the folk tales of Moses and the imaginary Hebrew slavery in Egypt, hardly anyone in the west would know or care about Egypt. Fun fact for you: there are about twice as many pyramids in the former Kushite Kingdom (modern day Sudan) as in Egypt. The black Nubians of Kush even conquered Egypt and ruled it for a couple of centuries.

Egyptians are neither "white" (Caucasian) nor "black" (sub-Saharan African). Despite being conquered many times, there have been no mass migrations into Egypt that has drastically changed their racial demographics. Ancient Egyptians, like modern Egyptians, are their own people, most closely related to other north Africans (the Berbers) with a significant genetic connection to the black Nubians of Sudan.

Irrigation exists.

Yes, it exists, and if you happen to be close to large rivers then maybe you can use it. Irrigation requires big, complex societies with a surplus of labour. Not something that early farmers could do, and even today, most farms around the world are not irrigated, but rely on rainfall.

Is disease good or bad?

Well obviously disease is bad for the individuals who get sick and die.

But for societies, constant endemic disease that weakens everyone is bad because it acts to slow down the rate of advancement. So that's bad too.

But occasional, rare pandemics that hit suddenly and then disappear can, in the long run, cause civilisations to advance. For instance, Medieval European society was stagnant, wages were low, the aristocrats controlled the peasants (serfs) and there was very little merchant class. And then the Black Death struck, and killed many millions of people. Obviously bad for those who died. But it killed off many of the parasitical aristocrat and priest class, and so many of the working class that the survivors could demand more pay and more freedoms.

Modern Europe probably owes at least part of its economic and democratic freedoms to the disruption caused by the medieval Black Death.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your admission that Egyptians are white is an admission that they owe Jews reparations for enslaving us.