Ukrainian Ambassador freaks out, telling Elon Musk to ‘F– Off’ after he catually outlines the obvious fair and honest way to peace with Russia on Twitter, without the fake dog-and-pony show

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    [–]JosephDeMaistre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Ukraine is a large country: biggest country in Europe area-wise (excluding Russia and Turkey as Eurasian countries) and with a population of about one third of Russia's. It's ridiculous to argue a relatively large country shouldn't have the right to choose its own path of development. And this development has been adopting most Western values and democracy. I'm from a very small ex-socialist country with plenty of "US involvement", which I approve of, because otherwise we'd likely be a part of Putler's shithole country by now. Bottom line is: no civilized nation really wants to be a Russian protectorate, whilst lots of such nations agree to become a US protectorate. Why is that?

    [–]sampleusername 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't care who is in charge. It's just kind of dumb to insist that the US would be able to forever exert its influence over nations that share a border with Russia. That's as untenable as Russia maintaining control of Cuba, or doing worse and trying to capture Mexico.

    It's not possible to have a one world system of supply chains and government that persists through the ages, as we are all hardwired for greed and selfishness, leading to eventual degradation and collapse. And when that happens the first nations to fall away are always those that are furthest from the epicenter of power and closest to the borders of their enemies.

    [–]JosephDeMaistre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So you're advocating the isolationist line or something? Right now USA has been lend-leasing like it tried to do to so as to help Britain (and later Soviet Union) even before the official declaration of said policiy, let alone official entry to war. Like, Nazi Germany also was a striving power combatting the Anglo-Saxon hegemony. And of course the "first nations to fall away" were Czechoslovakia and then Poland. so are you like rationalizing aggression or merely supporting do-nothing policies?