Did violence follow Roe decision? Yes — almost all of it against pro-choice protesters

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

But yeah - access to a life-saving abortion is totally related to a harmless vaccine taken by billions of people.

Not nearly every abortion is performed to save the life of the mother, and the vaccine isn't harmless for everyone who takes it.

But this is completely beside the point, these issues are absolutely related, because they both hinge upon whether the government should have the power to determine "what people can or cannot do with their bodies". You are saying that people should have bodily autonomy, but only as long as you agree with them on the particular issue, which isn't bodily autonomy at all. It doesn't matter whether you think the vaccine is reasonable or whether a conservative thinks abortion is murder, bodily autonomy says you don't get to decide for them.

If you don't actually believe in the principle of bodily autonomy, you don't really have any philosophical ground to defend abortion rights on

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But this is completely beside the point, these issues are absolutely related, because they both hinge upon whether the government should have the power to determine "what people can or cannot do with their bodies"

^ this. Maximum Bepis.

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    No one should want to cause life-long problems for a fetus and mother by restricting their options in the first trimester.

    I don't, I fully support bodily autonomy, including a woman's right to have a first trimester abortion whether it is for health reasons or any other reason

    [–]CanisRexIndependent 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    contraception - condoms, diaphragms, spermicide, HBC (pills/implant), vasectomy, tubal ligation, abstinence collectively are 100 percent effective.

    There is never an instance where an elective abortion is anything short of straight murder. Literal infanticide.

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      [–]CanisRexIndependent 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

      canadians are the worst americans. At least those south of the US actually care about their children.

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        [–]CanisRexIndependent 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

        elective abortions are infanticide.

        I'm likely old enough to be your father, bud.

        You're spreading enough high grade copium around here to power a couple of abortion clinics.

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          [–]CanisRexIndependent 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          elective abortions are murder

          cope harder, commie.

          [–]asterias 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

          There are people who can't think even when well into their forties. Are you suggesting they should be treated with euthanasia so that the quality of life for the rest will be improved?

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            [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            And there are adults with underdeveloped brain areas that draw back everyone else. Their level of consciousness is obviously inferior to others. Should they be aborted as lesser life forms?