Time Magazine Admits the Election was Rigged by the Elites to 'Save Democracy'
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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun - 3 years ago (9 children)
You made an image of a comment 9 paragraphs into the essay that notes what some people think happened (but did not necessarily happen) and you're spinning it as her main point. You could say you Saiditized the article. This article is not an admission that the election was rigged; its about the groups that came together in order to deal with a system that's stacked against them. Also, why not link to it here?:
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
[–]wristaction 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
a system that's stacked against them
[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (5 children)
its about the groups that came together in order to deal with a system that's stacked against them.
This is an unfalsifiable premise.
Well obviously Group A doing a bad thing just shows it's so necessary because Group B does so many more bad things!
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (4 children)
Depends on what you call "a bad thing". Group A wasn't engaged in the anti-democratic activities of Group B. Group A tried to assure that the pupular vote would win this time (as opposed to what happened for Twittler 4 years ago, and what happened when the Supreme court gave the election to Bush Jr in 2000).
[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
America is institutionally racist! Why are there all these programs for people based on minority status then? That's just more proof how racist it is because that's a necessity!
America is institutionally racist! Why are there all these programs for people based on minority status then?
America is institutionally racist!
Why are there all these programs for people based on minority status then?
That's just more proof how racist it is because that's a necessity!
You guys believe so much stuff like this. It's an unfalsifiable premise.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
Not directly related to my points, or your earlier points, about Group A and Group B.
If instead you wish to discuss types of unfalsifiable premises (especially for Group A, though not excluding Group B), perhaps we could consider the recent presidential election:
1 The presidential election was rigged.
2 A person I know saw another person scan ballots twice.
3 Thus, this happened at several ballot counting centers, because it was possible.
[...]
(4 Thus Trump actually won the election)
(5 Stop the Steal!)
(6 Let's murder AOC and Pelosi, steal laptops, beat cops to death, park a truck full of weapons nearby)
(7 Invite our Supreme Leader back to the Capitol)
(8 Put people we don't like in concentration camps and kill them in gas chambers)
[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
I think I brought my neck from you pivoting so hard into whataboutism to avoid my point.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
You made two oversimplified points (a false equivalence about groups A & B, and a false equivalence of this argument to an 'unfalsifiable premise') and I responded directly to both of them. If there is another point you want someone to address, what is it? Are we now on 'whataboutism'? What about whataboutism? Spill the beans. What do you really want to know?
[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago* (1 child)
It's reassuring that CEOs, politicians, well-funded activist movements, and major corporations found the strength to fight back against this system that oppresses them.
And people archive because pages can be changed, and news outlets aren't exactly consistent in documenting edits made to their content.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Believe it or not, these groups were not that helpful in previous elections, where minority candidates like Trump, Bush Jr, and others could be elected with corporate trickery and alliances. And the rewards for these corporate and special interest groups representing the 1% were substantial. (Consider that we're now 27 trillion in debt because of them, and the 99% will pay for it. The 1% is much richer - in the trillions.) All of this support by these groups was necessary to get the candidate with the majority of votes elected. (And 99.9% of the additional 5 million votes were counted by Democrats and Republicans.)
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