Dinesh D'Souza: "The #SeattleAutonomousZone gives me an idea. We might consider a long-term plan to create our own autonomous zone, with our own media, our own movies, our own education system."

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[–]Erasmus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a complicated situation. For the average black person, the idea of having their own state is a powerful thing. Look at their response to the idea of Wakanda! The chance to make Wakanda real would absolutely catch fire in the everyday black community.

Would a black state on American soil fail? I guess the relevant question here is: does it matter? What might be failure to you and I might be success to them. We both want a different texture of life, and the kind of law-and-order based societies that most whites want are intolerable to many blacks. If their society has less law and order than ours does, but they are happy in it, then it's been a success for both of us.

The most important thing, I think, is that lines of racial sovereignty would be established. And yes, this is why many black activists, unlike most everyday blacks, would push against it. But this is because those black activists are largely cat's-paws of Marxist Jews, and it will be very revealing to most everyday blacks to see this so clearly. Because those activists know this is a losing position, I expect the way that they would push back would be to say that blacks are owed all of America or some impossible to meet demand.

But I think popular momentum would carry it through.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wakanda isn't a real place. Everyone wants to live in a magically advanced ethnostate, that has nothing at all to do with what a black ethnostate in reality would be like. No one wants to live in Liberia.

If their society has less law and order than ours does, but they are happy in it, then it's been a success for both of us.

Psychologists studying childhood development looked into why kids often do things that lead them to get seriously injured. For example, it is common for a kid to set up a ramp to jump a bike or skateboard that faces an obstacle like a curb, when simply turning that ramp would make it safe. When asked why the answer is always "I don't know" or "I didn't think of that". Kids all lack the ability to predict logical consequences. Not all people develop this ability at the same time. It seems many adults struggle with it too.

The consequence for having a society which doesn't have law and order, whether you can understand it or not, will have a lot of violence and crime. Crime leads to social decay. Stores close forever. Parks and public places become unsafe and can't be used. Gangs take over. This society inevitably, and invariably turns into a ghetto. Vigilante justice is not justice, and can not replace police and courts. There is no substitute for law and order that can keep a lawless society from turning into a ghetto.

People who want a lawless society have an imaginary utopia that they want in which they are personally exempt from the oppression of laws and the consequences of their actions. They lack the ability to understand the inevitable result. They don't want to live in the ghetto that their society would actually be.

[–]Erasmus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't disagree with you on a lot of this. But I also feel like this is not my burden to bear. Let the African-American professional class that blames all their problems on "whiteness" discover for themselves the challenges of policing a city and managing a school system, with no one else to blame. What's important to me is that separation happens. It will be joyful for blacks who finally have at least the opportunity to determine their own destiny, and joyful for whites who can be relieved of the burden of being held personally responsible for every black failure.