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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I like the idea of white and men's rights. It makes sense, that's my interests. Just they always attract the shittiest people who make the whole thing unsavory.

There is nothing wrong with the idea itself any more than any other ethnic organization.

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There is nothing wrong with the idea itself any more than any other ethnic organization.

Certainly - until one considers the context, significance, and shadow cost of a white men's rights, and white supremacist movement. This is actually a very old movement, dating back hundreds of years, though without calling itself a movement or protest.

If we consider men, but not racism, it's worth noting that there has been a mythopoetic men's movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoetic_men%27s_movement

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Certainly - until one considers the context, significance, and shadow cost of a white men's rights, and white supremacist movement.

And that's magically only a problem with white people? Nation of Islam anyone? Black Panters. Asians, just kinda in general. They are a very racist people.

Speaking of that, is this a manufactured crisis in the news, violence against asians? Cause all they kinda got to do is take normal violence and hype it on the news and it seems endemic. I don't see any particular hate crimes personally. At all.

mythopoetic men's movement

Wow... Those dudes wanted a sausage fest. I bet they shipped in drums of KY Jelly by the truckload. It'd be interesting to see if Johnson & Johnson ever sponsored these activities. I don't see what closeted gay men have to do with this though. I mean, they were only popular in the 80s and 90s, back when it wasn't very okay to be gay.

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And that's magically only a problem with white people? Nation of Islam anyone? Black Panters. Asians, just kinda in general. They are a very racist people.

Not just a problem with white people. The racism of various racist groups is at issue. BLM is not racist. WLM - because it's a reaction to negate BLM - is a racist approach to diminish BLM. It's not a - blacks are superior - statement, but merely that they matter.

Speaking of that, is this a manufactured crisis in the news, violence against asians? Cause all they kinda got to do is take normal violence and hype it on the news and it seems endemic. I don't see any particular hate crimes personally. At all.

A lot of us don't see it. But the videos are often posted here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/ These are from individuals, not new channels.

Wow... Those dudes wanted a sausage fest. I bet they shipped in drums of KY Jelly by the truckload. It'd be interesting to see if Johnson & Johnson ever sponsored these activities. I don't see what closeted gay men have to do with this though. I mean, they were only popular in the 80s and 90s, back when it wasn't very okay to be gay.

You're conflating Gay Pride movements with a very masculine straight male movement (you'll see if you read about it). Believe what you want, but that certainly was not the purpose of that movement. It was the opposite of feminism.

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BLM is racist af, they literally don't care about police violence against whites, which is not an insignificant problem. Fuck em.

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The most masculine things you can do, you do not do with other men.

I don't have a problem with gays but if you think all those manly dudes got together and it wasn't a bear convention to some extent, I think you're underestimating the kind of person such a thing would naturally attract.

And I'm not knocking it, I'd go to the next gay burning man myself. Probably be a ton of fun.