Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev

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[–]Dregan 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Oliver Stone does a pretty good job exposing the U.S coup in "Ukraine on fire". He shows exactly how they did it and the other countries that have suffered the same fate.

Worth the watch.

[–]poosay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

it's Kremlin propaganda

https://khpg.org/en/1480891067

[–]Dregan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What I just read there was propaganda.

Doesn't even mention the coup performed in '14 nor the rise of the neo nazis who became the azov battalion.

Typical "fact checking" nonsense.

[–]poosay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

coup performed in '14 nor the rise of the neo nazis who became the azov battalion.

who gives a fuck?

small nazi groups are everywhere - and especially on Saidit

look up the role of Russian corruption in 2014 and the attempts to oust those assholes from politics, with numerous protests

if you want to focus on the CIA, you have no evidence, nor do they matter, nor do the nazis, nor do the jews, nor does hunter biden, not does anything other than Ukraine deserves to be rid of the Russian rapists who won't leave them alone

Ukrainians have tried to get their country back since 2014, and arguably since the 1920s

[–]Dregan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who gives af about the coup led by the states?

Look at the country now after the meddling. It's in taters but hey atleast Blackrock is there to capitalize.

[–]poosay 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

  • they wish they had more taters. The NATO should send taters, as well as tater guns.

  • at the moment, Blackrock is only in an advisory capacity - nothing on the ground - and hopefully the Davos group will stay out of this (though Ukraine needs their money)

  • Ukraine will also need to rebuild eastern sectors, and the advice could be helpful, where there are mines and other potential attacks (but Blackrock are criminals, rich criminals seeking legitimacy, influence and more investment)

  • read about the history of Ukraine rather than assume that they're in 'taters' because of 'meddling'

  • they pushed out Russian corruption. This was very good and necessary to do

  • it was not meddling

  • if you support putin, kill yourself

[–]Dregan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol taters..I didn't realize the autocorrect. Kind of funny.

Of course the davos crew is coming in. They already are laying out plans with the WEF. Wake up

I don't support war ftom any side but if your gonna put up missiles on Russian borders...u deserve what comes next.

If u support coups to install puppet governments with a clownish actor for prez and neo nazis for strong arm support you're a fucken clown.

[–]Site_rly_sux 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Evidence! Finally! Let's take a look at it.

  1. There's a dead link to the financial times. The link is supposed to prove that "New Citizen" (a pro-democracy group in Ukraine) were receiving funds from "US democracy promotion initiatives"

1a. That actually sounds like good use of public funds.

1b. Congress raises money. Not Obama.

1c. You guys are going to love this. The journalist behind the revelation is Mark Ames. If you don't recognize the name - he founded the eXile magazine with Matt Taibi when they both lived in Moscow.

1d. Ames' linked article is about how eBay and Intercept founder Pierre Omidyar and his Intercept employee Glen Greenwald were secretly behind the maidan revolution. Now Taibi and Greenwald are on the same pro-ruzzian side. Not totally relevant to the rest of the linked article, but funny nonetheless.

1e. Taibi and Ames used to write edgy stories about raping russian women. They filled pies with horse semen to attack random strangers with for clicks.

. 2. The second piece of proof (the first being that us pro-democracy money goes to pro-democracy groups) is Nuland's hacked phone call. I will link the transcript below. She just says who America wants to see part of a formed government. This is their second strongest evidence of a US sponsored coup (the first being that us pro-democracy money went to a pro-democracy group)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

. 3. The third piece of proof that they cite, is that Joe Biden insisted corrupt prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired. They forgot that this isn't evidence of a coup.

. 4. There's no fourth piece of evidence cited

Now, on the other hand, we have hundreds of interviews with people who were in maidan square, the thousands of people who participated in a revolution can tell you exactly how the maidan was a revolution and not a coup. But of course three shitty little dribbles of fake news are far more convincing to the Z-prop ruined mushroom brains

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    [–]Site_rly_sux 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Do you think people will only actually read and assess posts like the OP if they're being paid?

    Wouldn't you expect everyone on saidit to actually read and engage with the content they're responding to. For free. Just as a bar for entry to discussion

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      [–]Megatron95 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Says the sock puppet.

      [–]Insider 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

      I like how site_rly_sux, g0ldfish and jet199 is just one person jacking himself off

      It's fairly well-known that "pro-democracy" groups sourced back to the US are pretty much covert groups used to overthrow or destabilize a state. Everyone who's remotely geopolitically aware knows this. Literally, I've never seen anyone deny it other than shills. Even neoliberal shills on reddit admit it's true, but then justify it, saying that it's necessary for US interests and keeping the world safe.

      Hundreds or thousands of people usually aren't involved in the op. One of the tactics used is through brainwashing civilians with propaganda and using compromised "pro-democracy" leaders to help lead the way and carry out objectives.

      I mean...these ops are pretty much self-admitted.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-says-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election-here-are-6-things-to-learn-from-cold-war-attempts-to-change-regimes/

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/20/mapped-the-7-governments-the-u-s-has-overthrown/

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-senior-us-official-john-bolton-admits-planning-attempted-foreign-coups-2022-07-12/

      https://www.history.com/news/us-overthrow-foreign-governments

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America

      https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

      https://mronline.org/2022/01/09/21st-century-u-s-coups-and-attempted-coups-in-latin-america/

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/innocence-abroad-the-new-world-of-spyless-coups/92bb989a-de6e-4bb8-99b9-462c76b59a16/

      https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/trojan-horse-the-national-endowment-for-democracy

      https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/what-national-endowment-democracy-and-how-does-it-promote-regime-change-around-world

      https://www.jstor.org/stable/30040242

      http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/filipinas/doc/cia.html

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-pranksters-trick-us-officials-into-boasting-about-funding-protests-hbtwtvg6n

      https://www.herald.co.zw/ned-us-regime-change-vehicle-in-action/

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/07/america-cant-promote-protect-democracy-abroad/

      https://www.scribd.com/document/59812122/State-Department-NED-Soros-and-CIA-Links-to-Regime-Change

      https://www.intnews.eu/m/view.php?aid=3108

      But site_rly_sux wants you to believe that THIS time it's different and these are just innocent groups trying to promote democracy with funding from the US. Maybe that money would be better spent trying to fix the broken democracy at home.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Hello, do you have some evidence we can look at, or is your approach to simply spam the chat with links you haven't read.

      If one of those links has information relevant to this conversation why don't you read it and summarise for us.

      On first glance I can't see the word "ukraine" in any link, which makes me think you're probably just spamming to avoid addressing any points I raised.

      Did you read the OP article? Is there something in it which I missed? Do you have anything relevant to contribute to this thread, spammer?

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        [–]Musky 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        You apparently want the genocide of Saidit chat, Socks. How them death threats coming along?

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          [–]Musky 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          Oh come on, Socks, you're obvious. I guess lying is a small consideration compared to issuing death threats against people in chat who don't agree with you regarding Ukraine. How many days did you give Gravi left to live? Your cringey meltdowns are hilarious. 😂😂😂

          [–]fuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          Now you scared him off.

          I know you'll off yourself when your partner finally leaves, so no need threatening you.

          Also, all Putin sympathizers must die. Real easy to understand. He's also killed a few of them.

          [–]Musky 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          Uh huh, you're also using that goldfish account in here, angry little manchild.

          [–]fuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Also not me.

          Jeez you are slow. Support genocide in Ukraine and I'll have Ed pay you a visit, with pliers and a blow torch. He needs catfood money.

          [–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          You lost your shit psycho boy hahahahahaaaaa.

          [–]8thmonitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          .....

          [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Well done. You managed to get one good post written in 2022.