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[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is so because it is so.

It is so because we can measure it. Sea levels have risen about 8 inches since 1900. That's not an ideology. It's an observation.

The sea level rise propaganda claims that catastrophic sea level rise will happen in the near future, and that is just not true.

It all just depends on how you define "catastrophic" and how you define "near future."

Miami will be suddenly submerged in 2028? No. Ridiculous.

The Maldives won't have any natural land above water by 2150? Yeah, probably.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It all just depends on how you define "catastrophic" and how you define "near future."

That's a funny game called "moving the goal posts". They define it as one thing to demand immediate and drastic action, then redefine it when it is time to show the facts. The fact is that there is nothing alarming about it. So anyone who is alarmed has been greatly misinformed. Bamboozled.

Sea levels have risen about 8 inches since 1900

Oh rly? According to NOAA it is 1 foot in the last 100 and 6 inches of that have been in the last 30 years. They go on to claim another foot in the next 30 years. This will not happen. When it doesn't happen they will move the goal posts and erase all evidence that they made these claims. And people like you will continue claiming that they are the experts and anyone who does not believe them is (enter every slander and insult). The "authorities" are liars. They claimed that New York would already be under water. They claimed that the Arctic ocean would be ice free by now.

"Hur dur global warming exists" is not a valid excuse. It does not excuse their lies. It does not justify continuing to believe them and demand that everyone believe them. It absolutely does not justify drastic and harmful government policies, including those that simply cost a lot of money.

Global warming is not an existential threat, it is an inconvenience at best. The institutions that we used to rely on to give us the facts have been corrupted and turned against us to implement horribly destructive programs that benefit the oligarchs at the expense of everyone else. Controlling CO2 will not slow down global warming in any meaningful way.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

According to NOAA it is 1 foot in the last 100 and 6 inches of that have been in the last 30 years.

10-12 inches in the last 100 years for the US is not the same as a foot globally. Neither is it incompatible with a global mean rise of 8 inches over that time.

They go on to claim another foot in the next 30 years. This will not happen.

How do you know it won't happen?

They claimed that New York would already be under water.

No one claimed that.

They claimed that the Arctic ocean would be ice free by now.

One paper, looking at the huge drop in sea ice in the summer of 2007 projected that the arctic would be ice free by now.

"Hur dur global warming exists" is not a valid excuse.

"Hur dur sientis lighd" is not a valid argument.

It does not excuse their lies.

Science progresses by correcting errors. No one is lying. It's called finding things out.

It absolutely does not justify drastic and harmful government policies, including those that simply cost a lot of money.

Adaptation is more expensive than amelioration. So we should spend money to ameliorate. Because not doing so will simply cost a lot of money.

Global warming is not an existential threat, it is an inconvenience at best.

This is from the same school of thought that brought us "disproving claims of climate alarmists about rising sea levels" by misreporting a paper showing that sea levels were reducing the land area of islands, but some were expanding due to human land filling.

Sorry if I don't trust you, but the denialist industry puts out a lot of lies.

Controlling CO2 will not slow down global warming in any meaningful way.

I don't trust you any more. What's your best proof of that?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)