Right-Winger VINCENT JAMES on Robert E Lee Statue, American Involvement in Both World Wars

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

American involvement in WW1 was the biggest disaster in the history of the human species. That one event sent European civilization down a death spiral and is directly responsible for the wreckage we live in today.

[–]Richard_Parker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Indeed. Whatever misgivings people have about the Third Reich, Bismarck's 2nd Empire was pretty much the ideal society.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Bismarck's 2nd Empire was pretty much the ideal society.

According to the inter-war Ernst Junger, the German Empire was a typical bourgeois society with a thin coat of traditional paint. Junger found that this bourgeois character was exemplified, for instance, in how the imperial regime demanded that millions of Germans shed their blood on the front and starve for the sake of victory, yet at the same time lacked the courage to stand its ground against socialist revolutionaries at home, immediately capitulating without a fight and wasting all the sacrifices the people had made.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

lacked the courage to stand its ground against socialist revolutionaries at home, immediately capitulating without a fight

The army mutinied and refused to fight the war any longer. Sailors mutinied in Kiel and soldiers on the Western front formed soldiers councils and started to rule themselves.

Germany did not lose WW1 because of socialists stabbing them in the back. It lost because the entry of the US decisively tilted the balance against Germany. By that point further fighting was pointless. Austria and Bulgaria had also surrendered.

After the imperial government fell, the Social democrats recruited the Friekorps and slaughtered the communists.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are correct about the sailors, but you are wrong about the army.

You are also correct on why Germany lost the world war, but that is besides the point.