Don't argue that white identity exists. Assert it. If someone denies it, don't debate - assert that 'being Jewish, black, or latinx' doesn't exist.

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[–]SeasideLimbs 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed. By playing along with their ideas rather than defending the facts they are denying, you put them in a position where they have to explain their insanity. For example, how black identity can exist despite black people consisting of a number of distinct, large population in different countries on different continents, and how white identity doesn't exist despite the same being true for white people.

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By playing along with their ideas rather than defending the facts they are denying, you put them in a position where they have to explain their insanity.

I'm saying something beyond that: to not argue with them at all. Not on this point.

It doesn't matter if their leftist is inconsistent. What matters is taking a stand, simply and clearly: treat the existence of white people as a given, and go on from there. If you really want to debate, then treat concession of that fact as a necessary precondition for there to be any debate at all.

Don't waste time chasing them around trying to point out the inconsistencies in their arguments. That matters vastly less. What matters is defiantly stating that white people exist, are being treated unfairly, that it's OK to be white.

In case the past couple months haven't made it abundantly clear, having a good argument matters way less than taking a bold stand, simple stand, acting like justice and righteousness is on your side, and not backing down. You can lose every 'debate' and still win the war if this attitude spreads.