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[–]Pink 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Some people think everything depends only on what the elites do, not the masses. However, the elites usually follow the masses. Their ideologies are influenced by whatever the masses believe. For example, elite white democrats kneeled to support BLM and will do anything blacks say, republican politicians won't speak against BLM or diversity, hundreds of white CEO's donated hundreds of millions of dollars to BLM and anti-racism (Bank of America alone donated 1 billion), and over a thousand companies are boycotting faceberg over its hate speech policies. These were examples of the elite following the masses and the media as the masses became outraged over police brutality.

This is totally wrong and anyone who agrees with you is an idiot or a defeatist. I know this sounds harsh but it needs to be said.

Now to elaborate on how we know you're wrong -- think about for 2 seconds why the masses are doing this BLM shit. Is it because of magical dust in the air suddenly making white people antiwhite? Is it because being told that all white people should die on Twitter makes white people suddenly give a shit what antiwhite minorities want in white countries? Is it because in like 3 generations white people evolved to be cucked and hate themselves? No, no, and no. It's because of Jewish propaganda. Therefore the masses follow the elites. QED.

On a deeper level, this is just self evident. Are you so out of touch with yourself that you don't notice the amazing power of propaganda on a personal level? Are you so blind that you don't realize most people are parrots? Do you not just NoticeTM how stupid and docile most people are? How much of the intolerable they constantly tolerate without notice? So what, was their line just crossed when a cop restrained a violent felon who later died because he was overdosed on drugs? No, because the masses have no lines. Intolerable lines are crossed every day. The education system exists. 2A is a dead letter. 4A is a dead letter. Purposefully low speed limits and the harvesting of money with the threat of deadly force is only not done through taxation because the 100 IQ soldier LARPers needed something to do. Every tax dollar that is spent on a middle school English "teacher" and every bullshit traffic ticket that is given crosses the line but the masses don't care. Why? Because they're told what to care about and they obey. Studies show I'm right, but they're totally redundant because what I'm saying is necessarily true based on common, everyday observation and you know this if you're emotionally capable of considering it. I hope you're like 16 because if you're over about 20 it probably shows that you aren't emotionally capable of considering this point. If you're a teenager it's possible you're just doing a Moldbug and theorizing with no data and are therefore parroting a view that you've been taught to believe because you haven't had the time to question it yet.

I get tired of proving the sky is blue with mass spectrometer studies that engage in multivariate analysis vs. every other known color but if you want to see the data that shows the obvious see Sean Last's "Empirical Examination of the JQ" and Alt Hype's video "They don't care about you." (Titles may be off a bit).

[–]marc_gee[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why so many insults? I can't engage in a discussion with you like that. I understand the media and elites also influence the masses. It is a symbiotic relationship. The media replays Floyd's death over and over which outrages the masses, which leads to riots, which leads to the government acting. If 50% of whites were white nationalist, we would see some media and government supporting our positions. 65%, all dragging their feet, could potentially cause partition to occur somewhere somehow.

[–]Pink 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I can't engage in a discussion with you like that

Copout, there's like 2 insults. You evidently can't respond to what I said.

If 50% of whites were white nationalist, we would see some media and government supporting our positions.

No we wouldn't because all whites were white nationalists and got subverted out of it by the media, lol

Post age? I'll engage with you if you're a teenager. If you're an adult this isn't worth my time.

[–]marc_gee[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"he's retarded

people who hold this belief are incapable of actually stating it because they can follow a the chain of implications well enough

anyone who agrees with you is an idiot

Are you so out of touch with yourself

you aren't emotionally capable of considering this point

If you're an adult this isn't worth my time. "

You've insulted me way more than twice. You shouldn't be trying to demoralize pro-whites if you are pro-white. I have responded to mostly everything you said.

Whites got subverted out of white nationalism for many reasons such as the holocaust and the resulting anti-racist sympathy people felt. The only way out is to reach them and deprogram them.

When white nationalists were a majority the government did have pro-white laws for example on immigration.

[–]Pink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Whites got subverted out of white nationalism for many reasons such as the holocaust and the resulting anti-racist sympathy people felt.

This is a fucking retarded NRx line that makes no sense -- nobody even gave a shit about the Holocaust until the 70s when it was shilled by the Jewish media. See Unz on this.

Again, are you a teenager or an adult? I feel like I'm wasting my time with you.

[–]marc_gee[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

nobody even gave a shit about the Holocaust until the 70s when it was shilled by the Jewish media. See Unz on this.

Post a source then. "See Unz" is meaningless. Besides, many whites, probably not the majority, were still racially aware by the 70's. The full brainwashing took a bit longer.

If 50% of whites were white nationalist, we would see some media and government supporting our positions.

No we wouldn't because all whites were white nationalists

As I said, we had pro-white laws when whites were white nationalist, which disproves you. It also proves the elite do follow the mainstream ideology, the masses, to a large extent.

[–]Pink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As I said, we had pro-white laws when whites were white nationalist, which disproves you.

Yeah and then the whites were subverted out of it by elites, which disproves you. Smh

It also proves the elite do follow the mainstream ideology, the masses, to a large extent.

No it's the reverse to a large extent because the elites own the media.

[–]marc_gee[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah and then the whites were subverted out of it by elites, which disproves you. Smh

Change can happen, and both the elite and the masses can affect change. I think they can change each other too. The change that happened during "civil rights" was because of an anti-white morality no one could defend against, that of "anti-racism." Jews had a hand in starting its spread. We can now defend against this morality but we still need outreach and access to the masses.

No it's the reverse to a large extent because the elites own the media.

If you redpill enough of the masses by making sound and emotional arguments for white wellbeing, it can potentially redpill people in lives of media employees and the employees themselves. When you want to "redpill" the elite its best to try to redpill their acquaintances, who have access to the elites and can affect their thoughts. Their acquaintances are influenced by other acquaintances, who are influenced by other acquaintances, who altogether are influenced by the masses - the ideology that is mainstream.

Of course you might think all media is owned by jews and that no jew can ever be considerate of white wellbeing, but there are examples of white positive jews speaking at amren conferences. Jews can be "redpilled" too, and many media employees are non-jewish anyway.

Don't you think the elites were affected by the masses rioting over Floyd? They had the same common human reaction that the masses had to Floyd's death. They are susceptible to groupthink and group-influenced thinking. To deny this is a real sort of "conspiracy theory."

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    [–]Pink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Nobody denies the influence of (((white))) journalist and teachers

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      [–]Pink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They still told me, that I am a guilty person due to some historical crimes, that some of our people had committed in the past.

      Because that's what the Jewish media told them

      [–]Vegethu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You do know that qouting YT videos don'y count as sources, right? Can you empirically prove that white people hate themselves?

      [–]Pink 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's all data you fucking negrobrain