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[–]westway9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure that from 70AD to 1948AD, Israel was saying much of anything...

[–]OzwinEVCG[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews have been called Israel, have been calling themselves Israel, since long before 1948. Hence in part the country + nation / country v nation stretch--"Israel the country has done since October 7 alone, it does get a body wondering what else it, as well as Israel the nation"-- in my linked Gab post. Cheers.