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[–]zyxzevn 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Some friends of mine fell right into the Qanon trap, because they just started discovering some of the real conspiracies.
But they did not understand that it was also tricking them with fake promises.

There are several of those "conspiracy" groups.
All divert away from what is really going on, and they attack the realistic investigations.

Sometimes the agents mix in with existing groups to exaggerate or divert things.
This is well-known in UFO groups, but "viruses do not exist" has been very popular lately.
The solution is to stay focused and not to attack each other.
And just start with the evidence and facts if you want to discuss something.

The most extreme are flat earth, and no-plane 9/11.
They start with very extreme assumptions,
and attack anyone who uses real-world science to get to the truth.
Even basic science and basic evidence is attacked or bent in weird ways.

Critical theory is also like that. More on a political level.
Where only feelings matter, even if people are psychotic.
And they put the blame of their psychosis on other people.

Note: feel free to go any rabbithole you want.
It is your choice, but not everyone elses.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Have you ever looked into flat earth since you think it is so extreme?

I haven't been to space myself, but I guess I'll trust NASA images of the earth?

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Flat earth is great for the control system, because it doesn't matter either way.

If it's 100% flat, then there's still no actionable info. Even if you find the edge... Then what?

It's a dead end theory that discredits the individual to 99% of the rest of the public. Maybe it's true, but it changes nothing.

It's strategically ideal for discrediting people within the control system.

[–]Youdundeeditnah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Same could be said for the "viruses dont exist" conspiracy. it's great for the control system because it serves a two fold purpose. Itnot only makes the anyone who opposes covid madness look stupid/crazy to 99+% of the population it also distracts and creates in fighting among those that would otherwise be united against covid tyranny. just look at the comments section of a lot of the bigger alt-media channels and you'll constantly see this stupid debate crop up and people vehemently attacking people who dont buy it as shills. It's perfect for the establishment. simultaneously discredits and distracts anyone who opposes their agenda.

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Same could be said for the "viruses dont exist" conspiracy.

If viruses don't exist, then that would change the way people live their lives. No masks. No tests. No jabs. No vaccine certificates. No vaccine passports. And on, and on.

Nothing in people's daily life is impacted, if the earth is flat. Nothing changes.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If viruses don't exist, then that would change the way people live their lives.

No it wouldn't. People don't change their behaviour one iota because of viruses. They may, or may not, change their behaviour because of disease but whether the disease is caused by "poisonous miasmas", viruses, bacteria, prions, viroids, rickettsiae, fungi, amoeba, protozoa, virusoids, helminths (parasitic worms) or something else makes no difference to the majority of them. The more ignorant don't even know or care whether the disease is infectious or not.

Infectious diseases exist. If viruses didn't exist, then there would have to be some other incredibly tiny disease-causing agent existing on the edge of life and non-life, capable of reproduction inside living cells but not outside of them, which can spread from one host to another. Perhaps we could call them "wiroses".

Nothing in people's daily life is impacted, if the earth is flat.

If the world was flat, somebody would have built a holiday resort at the edge, and charged people money to visit the edge.

If the earth were flat, it would impact the transmission of AM radio. It would radically and massively change the way long-distance sailors and pilots navigate. There would be no equator. Anyone with functioning eyes and brain can see the difference in sunrise and sunset as you move closer or further from the equator.

It would impact airline routes, and their profitability. Do you think that dozens of airlines would waste billions of dollars each year flying the long way just to keep up the appearance of a spherical earth? Madness.

The horizon is only about three miles away. On land that's not obvious because of hills and trees and buildings, but at the ocean shore, looking out to sea, it is damn obvious even to the naked eye.

No ocean sailor could ever fall for the flat earth fairy tale. And it is a fairy tale. The ancient Greeks worked out that the earth was round, and they only needed a couple of sticks to do it. No ocean-going civilisation ever thought the earth was flat. The "flat earth" bullshit comes 100% from the made-up cosmology of a desert tribe that wouldn't have known a boat if one fell from the sky and landed on their head.