PSA: Don't forget that the Israeli Govt forced almost all of it's citizens to get the Pfizer injections. They also required vaccine passports (green cards) to access certain public places. Be careful of the governments you support.

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[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well, you've got your personal experience and I've got mine.

Apparently in your neighborhood, you've got five serious injuries and two deaths.

In my social circle, I've got dozens upon dozens of people who have had two to five shots without a single adverse effect other than a day of shoulder pain.

So what's going on here? Possible explanations include:

  • We got completely different shots with completely different ingredients, somehow;

  • There's a staggeringly unlikely mathematical coincidence in play;

  • You're older than me and your people are more inclined to assign any and all illness to the vaccine, even if it's unrelated;

  • The people I know are simply stronger and better than the people you know.

Those are the only four I can really think of. Which one do you think it is?

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think it's a combo of the effect like when you buy a new black Hilux, then see black Hilux trucks all over the fucking place, combined with the depressingly common, incredibly stupid but all-too-predictable way in which humans shy away from difficult, controversial topics.

Once I openly told people of my injury, the exact same people who never said a single fucking word about injuries suddenly started telling me about theirs or those of people they knew.

Let's get back to your ignorance, for it's a terrible thing. You seemed unable to rise to my challenge to name 5 ways in which these vaccines are harmful and/or more harmful than normal vaccines?

Are you still that ignorant with no real research at all, other than perhaps lamestream media, or have you actually looked into anything?

See, I was reluctant from the start, having read up on reasons why a coronavirus might be dangerous, by looking at previous attempts. Just that, alone, would tell you why these things are dangerous. There are REASONS previous attempts at coronavirus vaccines were halted.

OK, I'll explain - 2 strongly related but slightly different things, and a 3rd thing...

OAS - original antigenic sin, a quaint old term for a known problem with certain types of vaccines, such as those for coronaviruses. In short, if you hammer your immune system with one specific virus it develops a fixation on that one type and cannot respond properly to new variants - and coronaviruses are famous for spewing new variants rapidly. Imprinting your immune system on one specific strain is suicidal - and exactly what they did.

ADE - Antigen Enhancement of Disease. Very similar in effect to OAS (being vaxxed makes you more vulnerable) but with a different mechanism, the gist of which I understand but not well enough to explain it. Again, this was well-known in advance as a risk and a reason to not even try to experiment with coronavirus vaccines - but they did anyway, didn't they?

"But it never happened!" I hear you squeak, showing you're ignorant that even official figures, fake as they are, let slip that 'efficacy' slides down to NEGATIVE figures.

What about PEG, a substance used, that we already know around 20% of people are FUCKING ALLERGIC TO, but hey, fuck em, use PEG anyway? And that's what they did.

And what was that, LNP? Yeah, liquid nanoparticles. First developed to get drugs into places normal drugs can't get, such as past the blood/brain barrier and a bunch of similar barriers in the body. That's LITERALLY WHAT THAT SHIT IS FOR, but they told you the injection shit would just stay in your arm, huh? Yeah, yeah they did, don't fucking lie or gaslight, they repeatedly claimed that, and censored those warning it wouldn't stay in the arm.

And it didn't; almost immediately a Japanese study actually tried marking the LNP and spike proteins and then looking where they ended up? FUCKING EVERYWHERE, especially concentrating in the testes, ovaries and liver. By the way, are you aware of all the countries facing crazy big drops in their birth rates, the women with vaginal bleeding even after menopause and all that? Yeah of course you are, the BBC told you, right? Right?

Shall I go on?

I mean we could cover the furin cleavage site, and how it was patented by Moderna before the pandemic... but hey, them contaminants eh?

You DO know all about the plasmid contaminants, right? You know, the ones that cause... nobody fucking knows, cos there are so many, with so many variations, but for sure they'll cause a wide variety of autoimmune diseases and cancers, maybe fuck fertility...

Talking of autoimmune diseases, many warned that getting your own cells to produce spikes and then your immune system attacks those cells is a perfect recipe for autoimmune diseases, and that's what we're seeing.

Should I continue? There's plenty more, if you actually follow this stuff there's new revelations every fucking month for the last 2 years.

They are, by far, the most toxic and harmful medical fuckup in history, with some estimates saying 17 million killed and countless others injured around the world.

Was it really worth it, considering Pfizer stock is already back down to pre-pandemic levels?

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think it's a combo of the effect like when you buy a new black Hilux, then see black Hilux trucks all over the fucking place, combined with the depressingly common, incredibly stupid but all-too-predictable way in which humans shy away from difficult, controversial topics.

If my friends and family were driving new black Hilux trucks, I might not notice unless I bought myself a new black Hilux truck myself. If my friends and family were falling down dead or ending up in ICUs, there's absolutely no question I'd notice.

OAS - original antigenic sin

This concept has been studied, of course, specifically within the context of COVID-19 vaccines. Here's a study from January, coming out of Rockefeller university:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05715-3.pdf

The results are complicated - as biology almost always is - but the bottom line is that the shorter the antigenic distance from one strain to another, the less likely the immune system will produce brand new strain-specific antibodies.

This is a feature of both infection and vaccination, it's something to be taken into account when improving vaccines, but it is far from the hyperbolic "suicidal" label you stick on it.

ADE - Antigen Enhancement of Disease. Very similar in effect to OAS (being vaxxed makes you more vulnerable) but with a different mechanism, the gist of which I understand but not well enough to explain it.

ADE actually stands for "Antibody-Dependent Enhancement," and while it's certainly been seen in recalled vaccines for measles and dengue fever, we don't seem to be seeing it in the COVID vaccines.

It's always a concern in any virus, and it's not a concern anyone is blind to. Here's a concern being raised about how, under very specific circumstances, perhaps these mRNA vaccines could lead to ADE:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-19993-w.pdf

But it's the large population data, that conclusively shows that the vast majority of vaccinated people get less severe illness from infection, not more, that makes it impossible that ADE is anything more than an extreme exception to the rule - if it's happening at all with these particular vaccines.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008265/pdf/ccdcw-4-14-293.pdf

What about PEG, a substance used, that we already know around 20% of people are FUCKING ALLERGIC TO

Polyethylene glycol? It's the active ingredient in MiraLAX. People have been taking it since 1859.

Do allergic reactions exist? Sure. But the rate of fatal allergic reactions to the COVID vaccines are about 11 patients per one million.

And what was that, LNP? Yeah, liquid nanoparticles

Yeah, that's what makes mRNA therapy work. If you just injected mRNA directly into the blood, it would never reach the ribosomes and it'd just swiftly get broken down by the liver and kidneys and end up in your urine, having done nothing whatsoever.

I've got another three-letter acronym for you: FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Because that's what these antivaxx sites are selling you. They're naming well-known, centuries-old challenges of immunology and presenting to you like they're brand new information, unique to mRNA therapy. And then they're just panicking about mRNA therapy itself.

You know, I know about half a dozen people who have had strokes - all before 2019, before either the coronavirus or any of its vaccines existed. Most of them were elderly. But one was a 38 year old psychiatrist, who turned out to have had a small undiagnosed heart defect since birth.

You got a vaccine, and later, you had a stroke. How do you know the former was causal of the latter? How are you sure this isn't just post hoc, ergo propter hoc logic?

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Dude, I appreciate you've made some effort, but you're following the wrong path here.

You skipped over the VAERS thing, the system designed to spot a safety signal with new vaccines, which is screaming its fucking head off, even though there's evidence of deletions as well as the difficulties with reporting and the 10X minimum URF.

Tell me again about how that's nothing to worry about because the only system we have to spot safety signals is actually shit and incapable of it's job, so we can ignoring the massive flashing red safety signal?

Tell me that one again, cos that's my fucking favorite, right there?

Oh, oh, let's not forget the other one, the other ACTIVE reporting system, that reported so fucking high they quickly shut the system down.

But anyway, we both know I'm writing for others really, as your mind is already fixed.

You also skipped over the contamination issue. You might find this interesting then:

https://umbrellanews.com.au/health/2023/10/contamination-in-mrna-shots-serious-regulatory-oversight/

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You skipped over the VAERS thing, the system designed to spot a safety signal with new vaccines, which is screaming its fucking head off, even though there's evidence of deletions as well as the difficulties with reporting and the 10X minimum URF.

Sure, absolutely let's talk about VAERS and ACTIVE.

First, their very existence contradicts the antivaxx narrative. The narrative is that "They" (whether "They" a consortium of world governments, The Jews, the Illuminati, whatever) want to poison everybody on the planet, for Reasons.

What VAERS and ACTIVE are is government scientists saying: So what if there's safety data we can't see in official hospital records? Can we poll the public directly?

Not something the Illuminati would really be interested in doing, right? But of course this effort ran into three predictable problems, immediately:

  1. The anonymous public are a bunch of insane trolls. Ask them to name a bridge, and they'll name it Bridgey McBridgeface. Ask them what country Justin Bieber should tour next, and they'll send him to North Korea. Ask them who the most influential man in 2009 was, and they'll say "moot."

  2. There are people who want to believe that they've had adverse events. So, for example, say I got vaccinated. Then, ten days later, I was puking and shitting my guts out for 36 hours. If I'm someone who doesn't want to believe the vaccine has adverse effects, I'll think "Obviously I got a norovirus and the timing was a coincidence." If I'm someone who does want to believe the vaccine has adverse effects, I'll hop on VAERS and write "I got vaxxed and within DAYS I was the sickest I've ever been." So you can see how this is not creating very useful scientific data right?

  3. There are people out there who are actively profiting from antivax propaganda. They're either selling "alternative" products, or they're simply directing you to sites that are flooded with ads for scams. So VAERS and ACTIVE just handed them a powerful tool. Now they can simply write a few scripts to say "Took vaccine, had heart attack within 6 hours." If that data shows up in results, they can say "Look, it's dangerous, come to my site!" If that data gets deleted, they can say "Look, it's a conspiracy, come to my site!" Either way, they've got believers by the wallet.

You also skipped over the contamination issue. You might find this interesting then:

Of couse it's interesting. That is to say, the findings of Kevin McKernan and Phillip Buckhaults are interesting.

Umbreallanews.com.au is, well, have you ever looked at that site? They run "news" articles with headlines like "Digital Penetration" and "The Barbarians Are Back" and "We're Living In A Neofeudal Bubble." It's a website that is designed specifically to cause fear and outrage and to profit from it.

The article you sent me is written by Rebekah Barnett, a young woman with a Bachelor's Degree in Communications. Her Twittle handle is @dystopian_DU and it seems the main thing she does with her life is to write antivaxx articles for money. In other words, she starts with a conclusion and then looks for evidence to justify the conclusion - the exact opposite of the scientific method.

If we want to understand the issue of DNA plasmid contamination, we should read McKernan and Buckhaults directly (among many other sources). In no world should we read Rebekah Barnett, an unemployed recent college graduate who is getting paid to scare people like you by taking five or six quotes by McKernan and Buckhaults and twisting it into the "we're all going to die" narrative she'd already decided on before she wrote the first word.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah like I hinted earlier, you're a cunt and I'm not really writing to you, but to others who can use their brains to put things together, instead of rationalizing away the biggest medical blunder in history.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, you didn't "hint" it, you said it.

I'm just curious about your mentality. I mean, you obviously don't know anything about biology or medicine beyond the very basics, but you believe with religious fervor that the vaccine is several orders of magnitude more dangerous than any of the evidence suggests.

And it just makes me curious what makes you want to believe that. What makes you decide to ignore everything except the rantings of a 26-year-old on an Australian conspiracy website, if that's what it takes to keep believing what you want to believe.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://metatron.substack.com/p/the-uk-covid-vaccine-debate-that

Wake the fuck up already, or at least get out of the way