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[–]jet199 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It's pretty common for AGPs to come out when their partner is pregnant. It's usually the first time in their life that they haven't been the center of the universe. They get bitterly jealous of their partner and child needing attention and so try to make the situation all about them.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll be less generous. They want a, let's call it a host, that they can drive sustinance off of in a parasitical existence while they transition.

Coming out as a woman after the poor wife is pregnant is a tactical move done so that the wife is even less likely of leaving them and feels trapped. However the correct move as the wife is to always immediately and irrevocably end the relationship then and there because the parasite once it consumes all it can from the host will move onto another one. In this case once the former man finishes transitioning while subsisting entirely off of their spouse they will leave anyway.

[–]QueenBread 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Coming out as a woman after the poor wife is pregnant is a tactical move done so that the wife is even less likely of leaving them and feels trapped.

And this is why we need women's rights. So that women are free to go FUCK YOU when their husband pulls a move like that.

And, if you don't care about women's rights, then care about the child: would you rather grow up with a normal, but single mother, or with both parents except one of them is an insane agp pervert?

Compare countries where there's still the notion that women can't have a job or live by themselves or can't even choose their husband. Sometimes they end up trapped in this kind of nightmares. And then the child grows up to be a psycho.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll consider myself a conditional misogynist. Some but not all, women are stupid, and should they make stupid choices, or should their ideas be made public policy, bad things will happen. But I'm more concerned about the stupid part of "stupid women" than the woman part.

We don't really want to get hung up on the idea of "women's rights" as I think it runs into the same problem, the rights part is more important than the woman part.

So yeah the woman in such a situation absolutely needs to have rights, and I think the way marriage and divorce is treated takes a way a lot of that. But if the rolls are reversed and the man finds himself in a situation where his wife goes crazy and leaves him saddled with the responsibility of raising the kids, he needs to have similar options.

All in all I think that once kids are involved the ideal of no-fault divorce kind of needs to go out the window. Also probably better to treat marriage contracts as more serious obligations where one party totally failing to fulfill their roll in the union, can lead to the disolusion and financial penalty. In this case, the marriage should be anulled immediately, but the father needs to be held financially responsible for the child without any other such rights of parenthood towards the child. But it's a complicated thing to go about making policy to handle this.

I do think it's important also to realize that in a lot of these countries where the state of women's rights is abysmal, that situation continues in part because the women in those countries by and large are ok with it. Actively support it. And "cast shade" on anyone who goes against it, so to speak. Indeed it does lead to nightmare situations but most are comfortable enough with their own situation that they would prefer to simply sit around and gossip about how the poor woman with the abusive husband is somehow her own fault and divine punishment or some such nonsense and continue to put up with their own crappy situation.

So I think there's a pretty good argument to be had that the worst misogynists are actually women themselves. And while I'm not in favor of the idea that one's sex alone is a qualifying factor for leadership, I am of the mind that the vast majority of women leaders have certain personality traits, like the aforementioned gossipers, that don't lead to good social outcomes and instead only benefit their in group so to speak. Consider it the classic emotions vs facts argument. The female perspective is important as the emotional side of things can't simply be ignored, but when it comes to making policies that effect the whole of society sometimes you do need to isolate the emotional arguments away from the argument, because while it's easy to find horrific circumstances and edge cases that resonate emotionally, they may not constitute a statistically significant enough risk to be taken seriously when it comes to setting policy.

This is basically the problem with the "trans bathroom laws" a bunch of emotional thinkers are arguing essentially "what about trans people who feel bad" and letting the concerns of a very small minority thereby intrude on the concerns of about half the population. Alternatively I've little interest in the topic myself since it doesn't effect me and am perfectly happy to let women handle it themselves, which funnily enough they seem to be bungling massively.

Consider it a failure to perform executive function? I've rarely encountered very good female leadership, but throughout my life most women who have been in a position of authority over me haven't done much to instill confidence. Instead preferring a, prescriptive approach to the idea of respect. You must respect me because I am in a position of respect. Yeah, doesn't really work that way.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sounds like he's pretty happy to be ditching her. He needs to 'explore' himself.

I’d rather leave, the town I live is very conservative necessity would be to move to a bigger city to explore myself

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

"Abandon your pregnant wife to pursue your fetish"

Try that in a small town! Oh wait, lol, he did.