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[–][deleted] 37 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 0 fun38 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Same here. I married my wife, we have rights, we just hang out with our friends and play boardgames. We don't want anything weird. And now we're being threatened by incels who want to fuck us.

[–]Datachost 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I remember reading a tweet thread the other day by a gay man, who'd been active in activism/ knew people who'd been at it since way before him, who basically said even back in the day the activism was often split in two, the integrationists, that is gay people who just wanted the same things as everyone else, to not have to risk getting fired, losing their housing, to not have to face harassment and to be allowed to get married and who generally advocated for themselves on a platform of being just like everyone else. And then the other group, the radicals, what we'd nowadays class as the Q+, people who wanted to dissolve all boundaries and who claimed they actually weren't like everyone else, they were special.

The problem now is, the integrationists aren't taking place in activism anymore, since they have what they were aiming for. And ironically enough that's led to them having to get reinvolved, because the Q+ have ran away with it, and they're having to get back on their soapboxes to say "No, really. Most of us are just regular people, who want to get on with life. This isn't us", because they fear getting caught in the inevitable backlash.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a good point, the other is that activism in big business. In the UK, organisations like Stonewall pivoted HARD to the T once same sex marriage was a reality. Their big goal was achieved, so they needed a new cause if they wanted to keep the donations and grants coming in and this is what they've run with

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Activism IS big business. Diversity and inclusion gets tons of money thrown at it.

The goal of any justice org should be the eventual fading off and dying of it, because its goals have been met!

Imagine no more animal shelters b/c people are kind and responsible!