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[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If passed, and the Democrats are determined to pass it, and Biden to sign it, the Equality Act will change the very fundamentals of life in the US.

How to conduct medical research, or keep accurate crime statistics are just some of the changes it appears Congress hasn't considered.

Parents rights, children's mental & physical health, free speech, women's rights, women's sports, women's safe spaces, gay men's rights, belief in biology - GONE.

And the legal definition of "sex" will be changed to include "gender identity" which are words that no one can define but which will trump biological sex under the law.

So please, call your two US Senators and say NO to the Equality Act. or you and your kids and your other loved ones, will be living in some sort of extremely unpleasant Brave New World/1984 Horror Show.

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I believe in biological sex, but at the same time, I support post-op trans-women using female restrooms and female safe spaces. No to sports though.

[–]BEB[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Please check out autogynephiles (AGPs) who make up a huge portion of this new lot of transgender-identified males ("Transwomen")

Autogynephiles are mostly heterosexual, males, with intact male genitalia, who get a sexual kick out of dressing as women. They have forums all over the internet, including PEDDIT, where you can read their own words.

Autogynephiles often get turned on by humiliating women. They do things like take penis selfies in women's locker rooms and steal used tampons to stick up their anuses.

Since we can't tell which male in an autogynephile, which male has been castrated, etc., how can we tell which male should be allowed to use female safe spaces?

Also, according to the CDC, close to 20% of American women have been raped, and close to 44% have been sexually assaulted. Many women would have problems with any man, castrated or not, in a space where they're naked or otherwise vulnerable.

The bottom line is that women fought for safe spaces to protect ourselves and our children. Women and children are not human shields to men who wish to wear dresses, and we are not the ones attacking men in dresses.

The problem is male violence, so it's up to males to sort out their own issues and make other males, no matter how they're dressed, feel safe.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My initial response was going to be it is clearly visible, but with 70% of the population overweight or obese, I concede. Outside of these autogynephiles, it's arguably unsafe for post-op trans-women to use male facilities.

I'm pretty sure post-op surgery isn't equivalent to castration because they may reuse some of the skin. We agree on most points, but our agreement probably ends with whether or not a post-op male should be allowed in female spaces.

A leading question for anyone to answer:

  • Should a female (that is, a human with female reproductive structures) with XY chromosomes be allowed in female-only spaces?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So what are the statistics of XY chromosomed females that have female reproductive structures? Reproduction, in itself, implies necessary gametes to reproduce. A nuvagina isn't a reproductive structure, it's an inverted tube of flesh.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Greater than zero, but you still didn't answer the question posed.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've had relatively positive overall feelings about 2 transwomen posters here-- one of whom posts very well thought out videos, one of whom has a no-nonsense view on child abuse on any level. Were I to be able to personally evaluate them (in person) for a little while to confirm my views, I would possibly consider feeling comfortable with allowing them in the same restroom as my daughter, or using a shared-stall bathroom with them.

The thing is that women aren't allowed to vet TW first. We're just expected to see them as our own and embrace them, despite the incredibly high rates of sex abuse within the community, the blatant misogyny, and the rape threats. They're not thoroughly psychologically evaluated and vetted for a while before being allowed into spaces with physically vulnerable and weaker women and children, so we get the Yanivs of the community that make used tampon tea to get estrogen. They even allow convicted sex abusers that have been imprisoned to transition, then free them into women's prisons to rape and psychologically terrorize women that are trapped there. If they were actually put through a rigorous psychological evaluation to ensure that they're not a threat by a non-biased set of multiple and unrelated providers first, potentially even relinquishing internet privacy to make sure that their search history is clear of CP or abusive behavior, then possibly. That will never happen though.

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right. I only consider post-op trans individuals to really be "trans." The others are just men in dresses, women in suits.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a trans-identified male feels unsafe in a male facility he can simply change his appearance and voila, his "oppression" disappears.

That is not the case with women (nor with black men): we have no closet to hide in and no matter what we wear, our oppression is impossible to escape.

For instance, most women, no matter what she's wearing, can be forced to reproduce from approx. the ages of 12-50, but are often sexually assaulted/raped even before or after those ages. Women are men's prey from cradle to grave.

Trans-identified males, no matter how they feel in their heads, cannot be forced to reproduce, and again, can exit their "oppression" by a simple change of appearance.

Women fought (and are still fighting) for bathrooms in order to participate in public life. Lack of toilet access was used by men to keep women at home, in fact, it was sometimes referred to as the "urinary leash."

Bottom line: women face real risks, including the risk of forced reproduction, when men are allowed into spaces in which women and their children are naked or vulnerable. Women cannot simply change their appearance and those risks disappear.

Women (and children) are not human shields for trans-identified males who want to "live their truth."

If men want to be gender non-conforming in public, sort that shit out with other men and leave women and children alone.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The federal government is a lost cause. Work for secession or just leave the country.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're getting accelerationism whether we want it or not. Be consoled by how amazing the backlash will be when the pendulum finally swings back the other way. It won't be the only thing swinging.