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    [–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser[S] 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

    I don't know what was more obnoxious: the conflation of the criticism of evolutionary psychology with criticism of evolutionary theory in general, the suggestion that the author is some sort of brave iconoclast for daring to suggest that male and female psychology is naturally different, or the implication that male violence is at least partially feminists' (read: women's) fault for largely rejecting evolutionary psychology.

    I think that's an uncharitable take of the reviewer.

    Better outcomes might require admitting there are differences in order to act on them.

    If you believe men and women are behaviourally identical when they are not and this results in crime or social issues that could be avoided then there is a problem.

    As an aside: it should be noted that the vast majority of the criticism of evolutionary psychology is not political.

    Seems like the subject gets political very quickly and that criticism is often political. But I accept the truth of a science is independent of politics.

    Do you think evolutionary psychology is wrong? Does this depend on what you mean by evolutionary psychology?

    You can certainly use a pop psychology book as a source, but I would recommend going straight to the 'research data' the article mentions when possible.

    Well it is a pop psychology that refers to actual science.

    Buss’s thesis – which is extremely well supported by the research data – is that male and female sexuality is, in general, different, and that these differences produce conflict, sometimes in strange and subtle ways.

    That seems like a good point.

    I suppose gc generally think all gender differences are cultural.

    But I was interested in this because this was a feminist in a left wing publication admitting there maybe something to this.

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      [–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      the question is whether the behaviour differences in men and women are natural or cultural

      Obviously both, but not in a way it is often shown.

      We have different bodies and capabilities, different needs. So our experience of same events would be different, and from different experience different behaviour and character are shaped in the end.

      Some role are playing natural instincts (protecting kid by women) and hormones (progesterone is sedative and light painkiller, testosterone is increasing sex drive and agression). That is one of reasons why men are so much more hysterical in general (thought they are showing this in violence or "fighting back" what makes them uncomfortable, reacting to much smaller problems as they are huge ones) and less tolerant to physical pain, thought male body is much faster regenerating injuries because of faster metabolism, more oxygen in blood, faster blood flow, etc. Sorry for using word "hysterical", I just don't know another word in English to describe the situation. In English this word is pretty bad one, as it was mostly used to misdiagnose women in the past by saying "your health issues are just tricks of your mind and hysteria".

      However, in social cultures, all those differences can be ignored, as socialization can completely change them all. Social mammals have great capacity of "going against nature", we can see that in dolphins and monkeys. And even among smart birds like crows it happening, when they are going against their instincts if it is what is the norm in their local group.

      [–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Better words for hysterical here would be overwrought, maniacal, high strung, over-sensitive, prickly... and so on.