QT: What rights don’t trans people have?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

If the person in question doesn't have a gender identity then its misgendering, something you claim to be against.

If your filling out a form (non-medical) and they ask for your gender/sex with options of "male" "female" and "other". If you're cis, you select your birth sex. If your not cis, you have to select something else.

When you insist someone without a gender identity has one you are lying about them, and most people see being lied about as an insult, especially if you continue lying about them despite their protest. And as you are lying about their mind that is very personal.

Ok. Someone without a gender identity is not a man or woman.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then majority of people in the world are neither men nor women. And that does not make sense and is not useful anywhere, as somehow muslims are finding who is boy and who is girl to do FGM, chinese and indean parents are finding who is girl and boy to abort them - much earlier before those kids can ever realize what the thing "identity" is at all.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

The majority of people in this world identify as men or women, and that is called the gender binary. If their identity corresponds to their sex assigned at birth, that makes them cis. Most people are not trans, so the majority of this world is cis.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is complete lies. Majority of people just ARE, they are not identifying with anything and question about identity is putting them off guard, in a state of complete incomprehension or in stupor. People just don't understand what that even mean. Especially working class people - they do not have time to think about "existentional crisis" and "humanism and what it is to be human". This is mostly prerogative of privileged and/or rich people with a ton of free time, who can focus on themselves more than on trying to live and survive.

In my language (and in most languages I know, except English) there even no such word with meaning "woman gender identity", only "female human" and "female animal/mammal" ones exist, so you can't even explain to people what it means and why it is different. And everyone is saying that explanation of Stonewall as "taking gender role of woman and living as woman" - is very sexist.

Plus majority of people would be non-binary, not "cis", as they are performing both male and female traits. And if take into account GLAAD's definition, then at least half of population are trans, because GLAAD's definition relies on very American stereotypes of masculinity and femininity, while in Asia and Africa they are completely different.

So I'd say only minority of people have gender identity at all - be it cis, NB or trans.