All: Do men and women need each other beyond purposes of reproduction?

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[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But I wonder if in a larger sense, women and men provide different types of inspiration for each other just by virtue of their sex characteristics and how they reconcile their existence in the world as members of whatever sex they are.

I think it has to do more with competition and in general the desire to have a social life, not necessarily about sexes.

So I wonder if a sex-typed inspiration to one's life may be what gives another purpose to homosexual people.

Do they have other purposes, though? Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying here, but to me they have the same life heterosexual people have when it comes to social interactions. Tons of them also have the same desire for reproduction, they just find alternative ways to get there.

I personally think that if we were a mono-sex race, we would have a very similar society and personal goals to the one we have now. We wouldn' t have sexism or homophobia, but I have the feeling that we would have other things to replace those.

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I think it has to do more with competition and in general the desire to have a social life, not necessarily about sexes.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you speaking of just having more variety of human beings so as to facilitate more diverse social interactions?

Do they have other purposes, though? Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying here, but to me they have the same life heterosexual people have when it comes to social interactions. Tons of them also have the same desire for reproduction, they just find alternative ways to get there.

I would think they have other purposes, but it's harder for me to see what they are as they relate to biology. My idyllic side wants to believe that there is more to our purpose in life, but the rational side of me sees procreation as the fundamental purpose we have.

I personally think that if we were a mono-sex race, we would have a very similar society and personal goals to the one we have now. We wouldn' t have sexism or homophobia, but I have the feeling that we would have other things to replace those.

I totally feel the same way about that.

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you speaking of just having more variety of human beings so as to facilitate more diverse social interactions?

No, I am talking about the fact that those inspirations you were talking about are, in my opinion, more influenced by people in general than people of the other sex. I am not sure I can explain it better but in two words, I don' t think men are of inspiration for women more than other women, and I don' t think that women are of inspiration for men more than other men. It' s simply that they are different people who can bring the desire in ourselves to compete or be social with them.

That' s why I said that if we were mono-sex we would behave the same way: if there were only males or only females, we would have the same behaviours, because what we are seeking is comparing ourselves to others not to ones of the other sex specifically.

I would think they have other purposes, but it's harder for me to see what they are as they relate to biology. My idyllic side wants to believe that there is more to our purpose in life, but the rational side of me sees procreation as the fundamental purpose we have.

I think our fundamental purpose is to survive until we die more than reproduction. Same goes for any other animal, by the way. I know it sounds cynical but I don' t (surprisingly) mean it that way: we fill our lives with things to make sure that we are happy-ish enough that we want to keep going for as long as we can. That means goals, passions, social interactions, ambitions, whatever you can think of. I think reproduction is mid way between those goals etc... and purpose of life, because it can' t be as trivial as a hobby, but I also don' t think it' s as important as self-preservation and survival.

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Ahh I see! That makes sense. So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying that people inspire people, everyone inspires everyone. Despite reproductive purposes, women and men inspire each other, though not because of their sex necessarily.

I think our fundamental purpose is to survive until we die more than reproduction. Same goes for any other animal, by the way. I know it sounds cynical but I don' t (surprisingly) mean it that way: we fill our lives with things to make sure that we are happy-ish enough that we want to keep going for as long as we can. That means goals, passions, social interactions, ambitions, whatever you can think of. I think reproduction is mid way between those goals etc... and purpose of life, because it can' t be as trivial as a hobby, but I also don' t think it' s as important as self-preservation and survival.

That doesn't sound cynical at all, that's actually a kind of comforting thought. I'd like to believe that it's the case.